Blue Sunray
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Probably because it is and was based in Bavaria, it would be pretty hard to avoid former SS if one was employing working age males there in the 1950s in any great numbers.
Oyster Yachts gone into administration
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Probably because it is and was based in Bavaria, it would be pretty hard to avoid former SS if one was employing working age males there in the 1950s in any great numbers.
Okeanos
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Okeanos
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Mr. H? Quandt has much fault on his shoulders during W.w.2 in Nazi-Germany! No question.BUT he solved BMW in the 50'
From bunkruptcy with 50 Million German Marks.
His children, born after WW 2 , Mrs.Klatten and her brother have no faults and are employing about 130.000 workers,pay
Their taxes in Germany ( ergo EU) and are buliding next to BMW cars , Rolls Royce and Mini cars with great success.
Unfortunately Oyster-Yachts didn't fit in their portfolio. With a ownership of BMW or Quandt-family , Oyster-yachts
Would never go in administration and Polina Star would never loss her keel. And by the way: SS soldiers were not
"Wehrmacht"(Army) soldiers ! And 99 per cent of Germans are hating the SS like you in Great B. Please excuse my bad German -English.
From bunkruptcy with 50 Million German Marks.
His children, born after WW 2 , Mrs.Klatten and her brother have no faults and are employing about 130.000 workers,pay
Their taxes in Germany ( ergo EU) and are buliding next to BMW cars , Rolls Royce and Mini cars with great success.
Unfortunately Oyster-Yachts didn't fit in their portfolio. With a ownership of BMW or Quandt-family , Oyster-yachts
Would never go in administration and Polina Star would never loss her keel. And by the way: SS soldiers were not
"Wehrmacht"(Army) soldiers ! And 99 per cent of Germans are hating the SS like you in Great B. Please excuse my bad German -English.
NormanB
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Exactly - what happens in this situation is a company like Oyster is doing 'quite nicely' down to the hard graft and risk taking of the Owner and then 'worlds collide' the Owner is' knackered' and if not looking for a way out is certainly susceptible to the right offer - along comes Company X who look at the company, the declared accounts, the brand and the potential for ROI when they get in and 'streamline the operation and get it working to potential'. They make an offer of Y millions which the owner accepts and that is an immediate debt on the business - and probably the biggest debt that Oyster ever had - the numbers then do not stack up so well - et seq. Meanwhile the Owner has been rewarded for all his efforts.
Okeanos
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Scolly
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This has got to be the biggest fred drift in history !!!!
Okeanos
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Wow!
CCJ
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New models must cost a fortune in tooling let alone design. Ok its evolution to a degree with existing designs & mould tools being adapted, but 7 new models seems rather a lot to fund.
Cheery
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Not really. It was about family owned businesses and BMW came up and who it was staffed by.
As a former soldier (although I spent very little time there), I can also concur that Germans don't like the SS or anything to do with them. We also had a German exchange student who gave the same impression.
Tranona
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Not liking them does not make them go away, nor prevent them from working. However that is all in the past as most have now departed, having been absorbed into society (well, at least most of them) while they were still alive.
Little different from groups in this country that were "not liked" in their time but are now history. Indeed some become part of the (political) establishment while still alive!
Little to do with the thread, though.
SO40
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Wake me up when we are done talking about SS, germans and other totally non-related stuff......:sleeping:
JumbleDuck
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I suspect that Bavarians were and are a little less hostile ...
Blue Sunray
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:encouragement: It is amazing that Hitler ever got into power considering no Germans (post 1945) had ever supported the National Socialists and that the SS got up to 38 Divisions whilst 99% of Germans hated it.
They do however have a sense of humour, I recall being on a course in Weingarten (Württemberg but not that different from Bavaria) when one of my British colleagues was having a few navigational issues with the compass he'd been issued (all the kit was from German stores) the (German) course officer was sympathetic "You see this is a German Army compass - the needle points towards Poland"
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davidej
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Good post
I hope our German friend realises Hitler was put in power by all the industrial companies that so many of us now revere.
I hope our German friend realises Hitler was put in power by all the industrial companies that so many of us now revere.
Scolly
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Does anyone remember what subject this thread was created for ?????
Okeanos
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I would like to give a answer to the last posts and I agree with SO40 and Scolly we should change the theme back to
Boats, it is much nicer than the bastard Hitler.
To Davidej: You are guite right, that the industry was responsible for the rising of Hitler. To revere all this companies today
Would be a bit tricky. You then can't drive any german car.No Porsche VW, Hitler drove Horch - today it is Audi.And for
Your Royals with the RR or Bentleys, it is a bit delicate too.
To Elecglitch: you are right too with the support for NS before 1945 from most of the Germans.And the 38 SS divisions
Existet. What I mean is TODAY. Most of the Germans hate them like you! As our famous writer Gunther Grass confirmed
That he was part of the SS as young man, his reputation in Germany was over after all.
MOst of us have learned our lessons, which our parents have had to learn too in the past. Most of us have no empathy
For any military stuff, our Bundeswehr tanks are not running,our battleships are not sailing,our jets stay on the ground
And for the education of our helicopter pilots the Army is renting the helicopters from our German automobil club,
ADAC! And now for me, I am finish with this stuff!
Are there any news about Oyster? Perhaps a new 37' to join the Oyster- familiy earlier.
Boats, it is much nicer than the bastard Hitler.
To Davidej: You are guite right, that the industry was responsible for the rising of Hitler. To revere all this companies today
Would be a bit tricky. You then can't drive any german car.No Porsche VW, Hitler drove Horch - today it is Audi.And for
Your Royals with the RR or Bentleys, it is a bit delicate too.
To Elecglitch: you are right too with the support for NS before 1945 from most of the Germans.And the 38 SS divisions
Existet. What I mean is TODAY. Most of the Germans hate them like you! As our famous writer Gunther Grass confirmed
That he was part of the SS as young man, his reputation in Germany was over after all.
MOst of us have learned our lessons, which our parents have had to learn too in the past. Most of us have no empathy
For any military stuff, our Bundeswehr tanks are not running,our battleships are not sailing,our jets stay on the ground
And for the education of our helicopter pilots the Army is renting the helicopters from our German automobil club,
ADAC! And now for me, I am finish with this stuff!
Are there any news about Oyster? Perhaps a new 37' to join the Oyster- familiy earlier.
Kurrawong_Kid
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If HR can build one of that size why not Oyster at a competitive price? After all the £ has gone down somewhat.
pvb
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But what's a "competitive price"? I had an HR352 for about 20 years, and would have loved to replace it with another HR, but the HR37 was hugely expensive. My Bavaria Cruiser 37, with almost every option, was less than half the cost. It's very difficult to justify the extra cost.
CCJ
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I believe that GT 35 is now offered @ £135k down from £320k
pvb
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Yes, but it's now 4 years old!