Dazzajohm
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Yes both engines and gearboxes
Osmosis - Not a concern?!?
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Yes both engines and gearboxes
Bigplumbs
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If you are generally happy with the boat and it is a price you can afford. I would buy it. It is 27 years old so will have some issues. You can worry far too much about some things which spoil your enjoyment of the purchase.
Believe your surveyor and go with your gut feeling. Too many people reject good boats because they find the odd thing or two.
Buying a second hand boat or indeed a new one is a leap of faith. Do you want to jump or just fanny around worrying ?
Dennis
Believe your surveyor and go with your gut feeling. Too many people reject good boats because they find the odd thing or two.
Buying a second hand boat or indeed a new one is a leap of faith. Do you want to jump or just fanny around worrying ?
Dennis
Bbroomlea
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Our first boat, a Sealine S24 had quite a bit of blistering on the hull. I got a bit knocked off and left it. 4 years later it was no worse and the purchaser only had a mechanical survey and didnt care about the blisters.
Fast forward a number of years we are now looking to replace out S28 with a S34. I've got the survey report off the vendor for the S34, done two years ago and it mentions 6 blisters but all moisture readings were within tolerance.
It wont put me of purchasing. I will antifoul and monitor.
Interestingly my S28 was ok on survey 5 years ago and has sat in warm fresh water since new in 2002.
Fast forward a number of years we are now looking to replace out S28 with a S34. I've got the survey report off the vendor for the S34, done two years ago and it mentions 6 blisters but all moisture readings were within tolerance.
It wont put me of purchasing. I will antifoul and monitor.
Interestingly my S28 was ok on survey 5 years ago and has sat in warm fresh water since new in 2002.
Seastoke
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Warm water in Windermere,hello
Dazzajohm
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Thanks again for the additional comments. I'm still currently trying to negotiate a price that both myself and the seller are happy with.
Aside from the blisters, the survey did highlight about 20 other items which needed doing, the most serious of which aside from the blisters (corroded and leaking exhaust) the owner has already put right without being asked (he was there during the survey so aware of the findings). The other bits and pieces are not too significant.
The problem I'm having is that I knocked £6k off the asking price with my first offer before the survey. Now as a result of the survey I'm trying to renegotiate to make allowances for the fact that as the survey revealed high moisture readings of the hull and the blisters it's likely I'll need to get it treated which is going to be around £7k but the seller is only prepared to drop another couple of grand as he says he's already dropped £7k. My view is that the original £7k taken off was because (looking at the rest of the market) although she seemed a nice boat she was overpriced to start with.
Hopefully we can finalise a deal tomorrow.
Aside from the blisters, the survey did highlight about 20 other items which needed doing, the most serious of which aside from the blisters (corroded and leaking exhaust) the owner has already put right without being asked (he was there during the survey so aware of the findings). The other bits and pieces are not too significant.
The problem I'm having is that I knocked £6k off the asking price with my first offer before the survey. Now as a result of the survey I'm trying to renegotiate to make allowances for the fact that as the survey revealed high moisture readings of the hull and the blisters it's likely I'll need to get it treated which is going to be around £7k but the seller is only prepared to drop another couple of grand as he says he's already dropped £7k. My view is that the original £7k taken off was because (looking at the rest of the market) although she seemed a nice boat she was overpriced to start with.
Hopefully we can finalise a deal tomorrow.
Bigplumbs
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Not knowing the total price it is difficult to judge but If you want the boat don't haggle too much as you could loose it and be disappointed would be my advice
oldgit
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Could give a long long list of other things that could cause weeping and wailing during ownership of a 30 year old boat, half a dozen blisters is just a nice patina. Suspect all old boats have blister or two lurking somewhere and newer models are not immune either. ............ according to some accounts , freshwater boats are more prone to osmosis than salty ones. For some real osmosis................. http://www.yachtsurvey.com/BuyingBlisterBoat.htm Note his comments...if you do have a few blisters just live with it. The boat is not going to sink, it is not going to go any slower and in 50 years time your kids will probably be cursing you for leaving them a boat that simply will not go away without recourse to a grinder. Do what most owners actually do , slap and extra thick coat of A/F on the things.
Do what most owners actually do , slap and extra thick coat of A/F on the things.
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JerryC
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20 other things, most of them small, yeah that's exactly what surveyors do, to justify their fees. Just like auditors. We often leave a few little things for them to discover.
I concur with many positive posts above, esp post #42. If it's the model you really want, and you can afford it (inc the maintenance), and there are no others on the market, go for it! I did, and even paid a few £k over the estimated market value to grab the opportunity, but it was late spring and I got to use the boat straightaway.
Now though, it's nearly October, there are 6 months to go before next season, you may find other boats will crop up, with or without blisters. The gamble is: will they be better or worse than this one. Remember - a bird in the hand is better ... etc.
I concur with many positive posts above, esp post #42. If it's the model you really want, and you can afford it (inc the maintenance), and there are no others on the market, go for it! I did, and even paid a few £k over the estimated market value to grab the opportunity, but it was late spring and I got to use the boat straightaway.
Now though, it's nearly October, there are 6 months to go before next season, you may find other boats will crop up, with or without blisters. The gamble is: will they be better or worse than this one. Remember - a bird in the hand is better ... etc.
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Bbroomlea
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Take the 2K drop and forget about it would be my advise. Its not a new boat and as such you could spend £1000's surveying if you are looking for something without problems.
The main issue (exhaust) has been sorted. Do not worry about the blisters. The boat wont sink and the next purchaser will probably not even be worried at that age. As long as there is no delamination and moisture levels are 'ok' then its purely a cosmetic issue - and how often do you sit and stare at the underside of your hull ?
Buy the boat, enjoy and the first sunny day this will all be a distant memory
The main issue (exhaust) has been sorted. Do not worry about the blisters. The boat wont sink and the next purchaser will probably not even be worried at that age. As long as there is no delamination and moisture levels are 'ok' then its purely a cosmetic issue - and how often do you sit and stare at the underside of your hull ?
Buy the boat, enjoy and the first sunny day this will all be a distant memory
