Orca Interaction Poll

What Should Be Done to Deter Orca Interactions with Yachts?

  • Tag the pod(s) and track their movements

    Votes: 10 17.9%

  • Cull the pod(s)

    Votes: 6 10.7%

  • Cull the suspect Orcas

    Votes: 9 16.1%

  • Develop an effective pinger

    Votes: 22 39.3%

  • Continue with commercially available anti-degredation pingers

    Votes: 1 1.8%

  • Something else - which is.........

    Votes: 8 14.3%
  • Total voters
    56
  • Poll closed .
Fr J Hackett said:
There territory encompasses millions of square miles and changes day by day
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According to the marine mammal protected area task force its 51,581 square km . The orca follow the tuna. Man overfishes their tuna so they have to travel further to find lunch. Seems a man made problem ?
 
Rappey said:
Why should they ? They live there. Humans are the invaders. You don't have to go into their territory ?
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I think it's because they are insentient lumps of aggressive blubber who are only there to follow their prey.

Humans first.

If they were causing chaos and threatening lives in the Solent you would probably hear the howling on the moon.
 
Rappey said:
According to the marine mammal protected area task force its 51,581 square km . The orca follow the tuna. Man overfishes their tuna so they have to travel further to find lunch. Seems a man made problem ?
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Man is fishing the tuna to survive, make a living, the Med Tuna stocks are now recovered, the bay of Biscay alone is over 250 square miles in area.
 
Rappey said:
According to the marine mammal protected area task force its 51,581 square km . The orca follow the tuna. Man overfishes their tuna so they have to travel further to find lunch. Seems a man made problem ?
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What's the matter cat got your tongue or google not being much help.
 
capnsensible said:
I think it's because they are insentient lumps of aggressive blubber who are only there to follow their prey.

Humans first.

If they were causing chaos and threatening lives in the Solent you would probably hear the howling on the moon.
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Outstanding irony. You were prepared to annihilate billions of human beings on the order of some flunky politician.
 
Fr J Hackett said:
What's the matter cat got your tongue or google not being much help.
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Neither. its a debate that been ongoing for quite some time just rehashing whats already been debated and still not achieving anything other than people suggesting harm towards a protected and endangered species because its interfering with their entitled luxury lifestyle
 
capnsensible said:
The pod or pods of rogue animals that are highlighted, always, on here is 70 plus creatures. Try asking a Moroccan fisherman with hand line how they feel about it. Plus Spanish and Portugese fisherman too.

Ask Alaskan fishermen how 1900 or more of them are wrecking their livelihoods.

Ask any yachtsman who has had his boat damaged or sunk about how he felt about it and any skippers duty of care for their crew.

Or a chicken farmer about foxes.

Or any animal farmer anywhere about predators.

Or people like ne who sailed in the Straits of Gibraltar for a living.

Or any seal......
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I see few parallels between the examples you give and the issues we face. And I definitely see no analogy between fishermen and farmers - farmers reap what they sow, fisherman just reap without much of a future plan. We don't own the fish anymore than we own the water they swim in. Common and Bottlenose dolphins also eat tuna AND they have attacked humans on occasion. Should we cull them too? And those pesky tuna; they eat loads of sardines. They'll have to go on the list as well.

Any seal??? Are you suggesting the Orcas are wrong for being carnivores? They have to eat too. :)

Yes, I know you're probably being deliberately flippant about it but Orcas aren't insentient in any sense of the word; they're remarkably intelligent and have social bonds which are probably more complex, and certainly more loyal than our own.

I personally know two boats/skippers who've suffered rudder damage and neither would want to see the animals killed.

As for asking someone who's sailed the Straits for a living - I don't have to. I'm a delivery skipper as you know and I've transited that Med/Atlantic coast like a yo-yo for the last few years.

Orca populations are in swift decline globally solely due to humans. Why hasten their extinction just so we can enjoy the water? Let's find a real answer that doesn't involve killing these remarkable animals.
 
Rappey said:
Im sure i read something ages ago about the usa military testing acoustic deterrents but discovered the orca within minutes learn how to ignore it.
Suggesting explosive devices against an endangered and protected species is just irresponsible.
The owner of a catamaran back in 2023 who used some sort of explosive or firearm device against the orca is now looking at prosecution.
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Endangered species? There's more now than there has been for years.
Irresponsible? You're 'aving a larf! When my boat and crew are at serious risk I I will be as "irresponsible" as I like and I suggest so would you be.
Prosecution?? Show me the evidence of this. Up to now there has been no prosecution for anyone defending their boat and crew against the orca. The 2023 prosecution I suspect you are talking about is on hold and has been since it occurred.
 
Rappey said:
According to the marine mammal protected area task force its 51,581 square km . The orca follow the tuna. Man overfishes their tuna so they have to travel further to find lunch. Seems a man made problem ?
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Not true. There have been tuna fishing limits for years and they are now being relaxed because there are lots of tuna to go round. Orca have plenty to eat, that why orca numbers are up as well as tuna numbers.
 
Sea Change said:
What's the solution then?

That rudder spike device was made by a yard in Galicia by the way.
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I've seen plenty of these devices and similar fitted down here in the boatyard. I've also seen people diving in the marina and removing them after a few weeks and a few test sails.
 
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