john_morris_uk
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If this is a forumite, then I do not wish to offend, but when I saw this on e-bay, the word 'optimistic' came to mind when I saw the starting price... wooden rowing boat
Optimistic Price?
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Emjaytoo
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A quick trawl around the internet suggests that's not a bad price. One place wanted over £2K for a new 12 foot clinker built rowing boat.
She certainly looks very nice and someone has put a lot of hard work in.
She certainly looks very nice and someone has put a lot of hard work in.
AIDY
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not my cup of tea... but looks a very sturdy boat for the money.....
Searush
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Have you considered how long it might take to replace all those ash ribs? And the level of skill required? Plus the other work like gunwhales, preparation & varnishing.
If you could do it in a week and charged £25/hr you would have an invoice for £1000 plus materials! Seems pretty fair to me.
If you could do it in a week and charged £25/hr you would have an invoice for £1000 plus materials! Seems pretty fair to me.
Aardee
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I saw the same ad, and my immediate thought was "someone could pick up a bargain there..."
Funny how people look at things differently.
Funny how people look at things differently.
reginaldon
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A local boat builder I knew here whose dad was also a boat builder, when he was at school had to earn the cost of the wood - a fiver - for his first clinker-built dinghy, then he had to build it under his father's tutelage.
Skents
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Simple equation....take the price of a nice but tired old boat, work out how many hours it would take you to restore this boat to its current standard, multiply this by your going hourly rate as a retired Naval sailing teacher (plus materials). If the figure is less than the going price of the boat then you are a skilled man and can restore your own rowing boat. If your figure is more than the price of the boat, then the person who restored it is worth at least what you are worth per hour.
Cornishman
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...and another way of looking at it is by comparison with other craft of a similar build/restoration which might be for sale. I have seen similar craft advertised lately (between 12' and 15') for double that price. Don't know if the prices were met, tho'.
1114C
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Seems a fair price to me especially compared to some of the prices asked - the following is very optimistic (again hoping it is not a forumite)
We had one when I was a kid in the 70s and it was an awful boat to sail - could not keep in a straight line
see ebay item here
We had one when I was a kid in the 70s and it was an awful boat to sail - could not keep in a straight line
see ebay item here
Lakesailor
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Not bad. If you want a rough Char boat on the lake, (see my pic in the Lost Art Of Rowing thread on Classic forum) you'll pay £400+. If you want a good one they start a £1000.
If you want a new one it'll be £3000 upwards.
There is guy up here building new ones at ....................£10,000
If you want a new one it'll be £3000 upwards.
There is guy up here building new ones at ....................£10,000
Bav34
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Slightly off topic but why in heavens name do E Bay list boats etc under Cars, Parts and Vehicles ????
duncanmack
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Slightly off topic but why in heavens name do E Bay list boats etc under Cars, Parts and Vehicles ????
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Boat = vehicle. Innit??
Slightly off topic but why in heavens name do E Bay list boats etc under Cars, Parts and Vehicles ????
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Boat = vehicle. Innit??
Searush
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I'm with you there mate. Skippers are just about the worst sailing boat ever. Wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.
Bav34
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But following that logic ..... so is a car !! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Captain Coochie
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Ebay list under that so they can charge you a sellers fee . Don't ask me why but i got charged for selling a mates boat but not charged for selling other things .
Victorious
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No way.. the Mail boat (Daily Mail) was far far worse than a skipper.
duncanmack
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I'm with you there mate. Skippers are just about the worst sailing boat ever. Wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.
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I had one. £35 inc trailer. Bermudan rig with slipover sail. Despite being Scottish I still had a helluva job stepping the mast. Sailed OK as long as it was trimmed - I had found out that it was nearly impossible to outboard it unless it was well trimmed. Converted it to gunter rig (off a Mirror) so's my old man could use it. Now sold to a mad Frenchman for £200.
I'm with you there mate. Skippers are just about the worst sailing boat ever. Wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.
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I had one. £35 inc trailer. Bermudan rig with slipover sail. Despite being Scottish I still had a helluva job stepping the mast. Sailed OK as long as it was trimmed - I had found out that it was nearly impossible to outboard it unless it was well trimmed. Converted it to gunter rig (off a Mirror) so's my old man could use it. Now sold to a mad Frenchman for £200.
john_morris_uk
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Have you considered how long it might take to replace all those ash ribs? And the level of skill required? Plus the other work like gunwhales, preparation & varnishing.
If you could do it in a week and charged £25/hr you would have an invoice for £1000 plus materials! Seems pretty fair to me.
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The trouble is that it doesn't work like that! You can spend a fortune on an old wooden boat - but its only worth the market rate. My initial feeling was that no-body would spend over £1k on a traditional wooden dinghy.
However from other peoples posts it appears that there is a market for traditional wooden dinghys at four figure prices. If so - good luck to the seller.
Have you considered how long it might take to replace all those ash ribs? And the level of skill required? Plus the other work like gunwhales, preparation & varnishing.
If you could do it in a week and charged £25/hr you would have an invoice for £1000 plus materials! Seems pretty fair to me.
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The trouble is that it doesn't work like that! You can spend a fortune on an old wooden boat - but its only worth the market rate. My initial feeling was that no-body would spend over £1k on a traditional wooden dinghy.
However from other peoples posts it appears that there is a market for traditional wooden dinghys at four figure prices. If so - good luck to the seller.
john_morris_uk
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Simple equation....take the price of a nice but tired old boat, work out how many hours it would take you to restore this boat to its current standard, multiply this by your going hourly rate as a retired Naval sailing teacher (plus materials). If the figure is less than the going price of the boat then you are a skilled man and can restore your own rowing boat. If your figure is more than the price of the boat, then the person who restored it is worth at least what you are worth per hour.
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What he/she is worth is almost irelevant - its what the market will pay for a 12 foot traditional wooden boat that is relevant here.
Simple equation....take the price of a nice but tired old boat, work out how many hours it would take you to restore this boat to its current standard, multiply this by your going hourly rate as a retired Naval sailing teacher (plus materials). If the figure is less than the going price of the boat then you are a skilled man and can restore your own rowing boat. If your figure is more than the price of the boat, then the person who restored it is worth at least what you are worth per hour.
[/ QUOTE ]Less of the retired - and my RN life doesn't involve much teaching of sailing!!
What he/she is worth is almost irelevant - its what the market will pay for a 12 foot traditional wooden boat that is relevant here.
Aja
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First boat I sailed in was a MacKays 12' 6" dinghy. Parents bought it end of fifties beginning sixties.
Mahogany ply with a Vagabond set of sails.
£1000? Not a lot of money for a boat of this type. If you want a McGruer or even an Archie Smith then your talking a lot more than that. A lot.
Donald
Mahogany ply with a Vagabond set of sails.
£1000? Not a lot of money for a boat of this type. If you want a McGruer or even an Archie Smith then your talking a lot more than that. A lot.
Donald
