Ooops, a dropped off the Sandbanks ferry, Poole.

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Before we all blame the driver....this appears to be a 2020 car. Probably has auto handbrake like on one of our cars. You really have no idea if the handbrake has applied properly. Maybe a car fault not the driver.
 

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Before we all blame the driver....this appears to be a 2020 car. Probably has auto handbrake like on one of our cars. You really have no idea if the handbrake has applied properly. Maybe a car fault not the driver.
My handbrake goes on once a year for the MOT.
If you are relying on it (why?) and you don’t check it’s on it’s nobody’s fault but the driver.
Doesn’t make him/her a bad person we all make mistakes. But it IS their fault.
 

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The thing is....on this new car you have put a switch (no gear lever) into park and then it automatically applies the handbrake. You have to completely rely on the technology to do the job. No, I did not choose the car, my dear wife did!
 

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What happened to that lever between the seats you yanked? Mine, my first automatic, appears difficult to leave without the handbrake on - it's default setting on turning off.
I do not like the handbrake 'on' when left in garage, to achieve this I have to put the gear lever (press button) into P whilst holding the lever for tge electronic handbrake 'off '
What a faff! Reason for not wanting handbrake is on is due to low car use and brakes seizing on, a little perturbing having to boot it out of garage on full lock tucked In behind the pillar.
 

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Basically some prat left their car on the slipway without putting the handbrake on, so the car went into the water blocking the ferry.
It's quite common, people forgetting hand brakes.

Couple of years back I was in a Tesco car park when a car started rolling out of a parking bay with no one in it.
I stopped it and SWMBO went inside Tesco and they tannoyed for the owner who came running out..

Had I not been there it would have rolled across the carpark running into one or more cars..
Did you have time to don your cape ?
 

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My grandad briefly had a business repairing printing presses in the mid to late 1920s. He had a first world war surplus Chevrolet flatbed wagon which only had rear brakes . This was round Bradford and the Yorkshire Dales, and yes, my father recounted going down Greenhow Hill in it when he was little which is three miles with 1 in 4 in places. I live next to the bottom of Greenhow Hill. It still claims the occasional life sadly.
My grandma told me that some days she never expected to see him again.
 

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Many won't understand the idiosyncrasies of automatic handbrakes.

Peugeot handbrake applies if engine is switched off but on Audi the auto handbrake only works if seat belts are clicked in!

Most auto handbrake have a hill start feature but personally I still prefer a manual handbrake. Never discovered if an auto handbrake can be " applied" using switch when moving.
 

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Never discovered if an auto handbrake can be " applied" using switch when moving.

Yes they can, hold the button on for emergency braking.

I found out that when a colleague who vapes went to wind the windows down as I got to the top of 3rd coming out of a roundabout and used the electronic parking brake switch instead of the window switch. It wasn't unlike the crash stops I can do on the water jet powered boats I drive.
 

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From the photo in the link it looks like a tractor or decent 4WD truck could have dragged the car back up the slipway. Might have been quicker.
agreed. and then maybe it wouldn't have end up being put on its roof. It went from this

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to this. thats going to make a salvageable car a write off

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Reminds me of stories where the fire brigade came to put out a small fire and destroyed the house with unnecessary amounts of water. Likewise its verboten to criticise a poor job done.
 

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agreed. and then maybe it wouldn't have end up being put on its roof. It went from this

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to this. thats going to make a salvageable car a write off

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Reminds me of stories where the fire brigade came to put out a small fire and destroyed the house with unnecessary amounts of water. Likewise its verboten to criticise a poor job done.
Flooded cars are almost always written straight off. They can be dried out but insurers won’t take the risk that electrical gremlins won’t raise their head down the line, particularly in saltwater. The recovery method makes no difference to it not coming back.
 

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agreed. and then maybe it wouldn't have end up being put on its roof. It went from this

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to this. thats going to make a salvageable car a write off

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Reminds me of stories where the fire brigade came to put out a small fire and destroyed the house with unnecessary amounts of water. Likewise its verboten to criticise a poor job done.
The salvage barge had divers down to retrieve it. Also the ferry was running until the salvage took place so I assume that the ebbing tide took the car of the ramp into deeper water which then allowed the ferry to run for a while.
All this happened at around spring tides and the ebb can be fierce at the entrance.
 

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Flooded cars are almost always written straight off. They can be dried out but insurers won’t take the risk that electrical gremlins won’t raise their head down the line, particularly in saltwater. The recovery method makes no difference to it not coming back.
The insurers would write it off but then someone could have bought it and made a useful car out of it again. Being on its roof would make that significantly less appealing. I got carried away off-roading and submerged a toyota hilux surf one time, in a very large puddle, front in over the bonnet, interior half up the dash covering the ECU and all the electrics. I stripped it down and washed the silt out with a job lot of WD40, Everything was fine other than I had to replace a horn relay. And it shortened the life of the autobox which surprisingly has friction discs made of paper in it and a breather pipe that must have sucked water in when it cooled.
 
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