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How do I remove pictures from my attachments folder which is at its size limit? Annoyingly I am sure I tried before and prevailed in the end. Pretty Please
 
AngusMcDoon said:
Well I don't know. It's next to "Log Out" for me.
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Found it!
I was using Internet Explorer and the words that should be in the blue line appear in the black line below. Hovering over the search box reveals the word "settings" Thank you Microsoft.
I proved it by using Chrome as the browser and all is as it should be. A convert to Chrome perhaps, but I do resent Google taking over the virtual world.
 
johnphilip said:
Found it!
I was using Internet Explorer and the words that should be in the blue line appear in the black line below. Hovering over the search box reveals the word "settings" Thank you Microsoft.
I proved it by using Chrome as the browser and all is as it should be. A convert to Chrome perhaps, but I do resent Google taking over the virtual world.
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Perhaps it is my PC at fault as the attached quirk does not happen on the laptop. Look where the words that should be on the paler blue line at the top actually appear.
 
johnphilip said:
A convert to Chrome perhaps, but I do resent Google taking over the virtual world.
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Then try Firefox: Mozilla is a non-profit organisation.
johnphilip said:
Perhaps it is my PC at fault as the attached quirk does not happen on the laptop. Look where the words that should be on the paler blue line at the top actually appear.
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Perhaps the two machines have different versions of IE and they handle the page layout data that YBW generates differently. Perhaps YBW generates different page layout data for different versions of IE and that's in error. Probably both. Earlier versions of IE have many idiosyncrasies.
 
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DaveRo said:
Perhaps the two machines have different versions of IE and they handle to page layout data that YBW generates differently. Perhaps YBW generates different page layout data for different versions of IE and that's in error. Possibly both. Earlier versions of IE have many idiosyncrasies.
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The layout of this forum is indeed very poor, and there is no reason not to be using IE10 on both PCs. Get rid of the nasty MSN version.
 
nigelmercier said:
It has been so long that I have seen XP, that I have forgotten. Why anyone would consider using a 12 year-old operating system, which is no longer supported by Microsoft, is beyond me.
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For commercial companies, often because they have bespoke software that won't work (or isn't supported) with later versions of Windows. That's why some companies stick with ancient versions of browsers - they have software that relies on the idiosyncracies of old versions of IE. Some of the software may rely on accessing hardware at levels not allowed by later versions of Windows - we had a problem with that that resulted in a piece of equipment worth tens of thousands of pounds becoming obsolete because it relied on software that accessed hardware in ways not supported by later operating systems (this was before XP). Fortunately, the point where we could no longer keep it going was reached at the point where alternative software based solutions were viable!

Most of the benefits of post XP versions of Windows are in the security area. If you're in a corporate environment with a) configuration control and b) external security systems, the advantages of later versions of Windows aren't so obvious, especially if it would mean upgrading thousands of PCs to a spec that would allow them to use new versions of Windows. Basically, if there is no commercial reason to upgrade (and often, there isn't), companies won't upgrade. That's why XP is still widespread in the commercial environment.
 
And XP is still supported - until April 2014. I wouldn't connect one to the internet after that.

Our XP machine only died last month.
 
DaveRo said:
And XP is still supported - until April 2014. I wouldn't connect one to the internet after that.

Our XP machine only died last month.
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Furthermore, there will be immense pressure for Microsoft to continue support indefinitely for large organizations. As I mentioned, the cost/benefit ratio to large organizations of upgrading to PCs capable of running more recent versions of Windows is not really there - and large organizations don't like having their arms twisted. In my previous organization, the usual entry point for new versions of Windows was lap-tops, because the more specialized drivers etc. were not available for older versions of Windows. But desk-tops are pretty generic, and we had a license to allow us to continue to install XP long after it was withdrawn from public sale.

The problems to a large organization of upgrading OS are enormous. All the business critical software has to be tested thoroughly on the new platform, including bespoke software that was never designed for any other platform and which may have to be replaced. Machines incapable of running the new OS have to be identified and replaced. Staff training has to be catered for, including training on any new versions of other software that the new OS mandates. THe disruption to "business as usual" is enormous, and difficult to justify if you already have a platform that does what you need it to do.

Badly planned and botched upgrades of OS are a potential cause of business failure - which is why a lot of organizations are reluctant to take the risk.

Given the inevitable costs of upgrading to a new version of Windows, it is surprising more organizations don't consider changing OS totally to a version of Linux when this comes up. The main reason they don't is intertia and investment in specialist staff.
 
We still have data loggers running DOS, finding a replacement isn't proving easy. The system still works with the aincient software and hardware, but the hardware is now wearing out.

We can't use the DOS machines on the network though, the network is running on Vista.
 
aquaplane said:
We still have data loggers running DOS, finding a replacement isn't proving easy. The system still works with the aincient software and hardware, but the hardware is now wearing out.

We can't use the DOS machines on the network though, the network is running on Vista.
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That was exactly our problem! Not just data loggers, but any kind of real-time control function requiring feedback is likely to be unsupportable on Windows; you don't (and can't have) access to the necessary layer of the hardware.
 
aquaplane said:
We still have data loggers running DOS, finding a replacement isn't proving easy. The system still works with the ancient software and hardware, but the hardware is now wearing out.

We can't use the DOS machines on the network though, the network is running on Vista.
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Do you mean that my old Amstrad PC1512 has a value? I believe it has a 20 kb hard drive. How about my DOS manual that I was about to dump?
 
AntarcticPilot said:
For commercial companies, often because they have bespoke software that won't work (or isn't supported) with later versions of Windows. That's why some companies stick with ancient versions of browsers - they have software that relies on the idiosyncracies of old versions of IE. Some of the software may rely on accessing hardware at levels not allowed by later versions of Windows - we had a problem with that that resulted in a piece of equipment worth tens of thousands of pounds becoming obsolete because it relied on software that accessed hardware in ways not supported by later operating systems (this was before XP). Fortunately, the point where we could no longer keep it going was reached at the point where alternative software based solutions were viable!


Most of the benefits of post XP versions of Windows are in the security area. If you're in a corporate environment with a) configuration control and b) external security systems, the advantages of later versions of Windows aren't so obvious, especially if it would mean upgrading thousands of PCs to a spec that would allow them to use new versions of Windows. Basically, if there is no commercial reason to upgrade (and often, there isn't), companies won't upgrade. That's why XP is still widespread in the commercial environment.
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You have it.
My PC was purchased through work and set up to enable me to use the accounts and other software at home. Hence still XP. It does cause issues when sites say I need to update my browser, but I cannot. Then I use Chrome or sometimes Firefox. Used to use Firefox generally but had a virus attack last year through Firefox that required professional help to clear despite (I thought ) good security program, Eset.
 
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