OK, Why didn't anyone tell me?

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OK, Why didn\'t anyone tell me?

Just finished a "trip round the bay in the sky-lark" stuff this week.
Basic outline is:
Medway - Ramsgate.
Ramsgate - Nieuport.
Nieuport - Dunkerque.
Dunkerque - Ramsgate.
Ramsgate - Medway.

First part of the trip was going swimingly until we met friends in Ramsgate (Royal Temple) who promptly told us that to go to Belgium we would need a SCHENGAN!! In fact if we were going "foreign" we would need a different SCHENGAN for each country.
Further enquiries revealed the normal horror stories ranging from "I never bother" to "God they turned me and the boat over the last time I went".
It appears that if the Customs man hasn't much on that day and decides to lay one on you, everything gets looked at, ICC ticket, SSR cert, Sail number cert, vhf lic, insurance doc, passports, anchors, warps, flares, the lot.

SO, I decided to wait one more day in Ramsgate and try to get a SCHENGAN from the RYA after a call to their legal dept who advised me NOT to travel unless I was the proud possesor of a filled in SCHENGAN.
Getting the form downloaded from the RYA site is worth another post at a later date but for now lets just say I suceeded (eventually).

Armed with my filled in SCHENGAN I set off for Belgium, never to be asked or boarded by anyone. Not a sole wanted to see my SCHENGAN and I must admit I was ever so disappointed having gone to so much trouble to get one!! Although, we and most other boats were buzzed by helicopters from various countries on the run down from Belgium to france.

The question is?

Why didn't any of you b***rs tell me I needed one before I set off!!!!!

Peter.

BTW.
We had a really good trip with lots of free and fast sailing the only downside was that yet again the French conspired to poison me having had just one meal in France! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Re: OK, Why didn\'t anyone tell me?

i have never filled-in a Schengen in Belgium or Holland & never been asked either.
i have been to both Countries many many times.
done one in France 3 seasons ago, this was provided by the Officer who boarded.
a lot of B****x is posted / belived, these are not Police States & all officials very friendly & helpfull. IMHO
 
Re: OK, Why didn\'t anyone tell me?

Whoa! You don't need a Shengan 'visa' to visit cross borders.

The whole point of the agreement is that once you've crossed one border within the countries participating, you don't need to show any documentation at all in crossing other borders within those countries. So, if you enter in France, showing your UK passport, you can travel any where in the Shengen treaty countries. If you enter in Belgium or Holland, you simply fill in a form, keeping the copies on board. No visa, no hassle, just fill in a crew list form as detailed below. If you don't have a form when you arrive, you simply obtain and fill one in. It's not a visa, and doesn't have to be obtained in advance

The procedure for entry to Belgium or Holland direct from UK (non Shengan country) can be found here
Holland
http://www.rya.org.uk/Cruising/faqs.asp?contentID=2481922
Belgium
http://www.rya.org.uk/Cruising/faqs.asp?contentID=2481927
 
Re: OK, Why didn\'t anyone tell me?

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Not a sole wanted to see my SCHENGAN and I must admit I was ever so disappointed having gone to so much trouble to get one!!

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I'm sure they would have looked if you'd trawled it along the bottom for them! (Sorry, couldn't resist!)
 
Re: OK, Why didn\'t anyone tell me?

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If you don't have a form when you arrive, you simply obtain and fill one in.

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Brendan
I believe you but we did make a call to the RYA and it was them that adived not to travel without one already filled in.

Peter. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
Hello, customer services here.....

Don't know if it applies to the RYA, but the type of 'customer service' staff used these days provoked my brother to refer to them as 'The Acne of Intelligence'. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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