hullabaloo
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I put my boat into gear and we had some oil float to the top of the water at the rear of the boat, could this be from the outdrives / legs or exhaust ?
oil in the sea? from my boat ?
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Seastoke
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Can you check oil levels in all , as if oil coming out of legs water can get in so need to c heck.
BruceK
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Let me guess. Gear was reverse. Not that it makes a difference. I'm guessing ram seals shot. If so which would you like to hear first? How much pain this is going to cost you getting ram pins out so you can replace or how much an engineer will charge to do it the easy way by lifting out your engines and removing the transom shield to his workshop where you cant see him butcher it with a 4lbs ?
I'm past master at that job. Talking of which I may have some better than new, never used, rams that I'll knock a few pennies off for. I bought six or something originally because I kept breaking the damn things. You'll see. My advice. Let someone else butcher it for you, open your wallet and put your hands over your eyes. It doesnt sting as much then and you wont loose any friends over it. Good luck ?
PS. RAM pins are only 26 quid. Not that you'll need new but it's heartening to know that such a cheap part sparked the Legend of the 300
I'm past master at that job. Talking of which I may have some better than new, never used, rams that I'll knock a few pennies off for. I bought six or something originally because I kept breaking the damn things. You'll see. My advice. Let someone else butcher it for you, open your wallet and put your hands over your eyes. It doesnt sting as much then and you wont loose any friends over it. Good luck ?
PS. RAM pins are only 26 quid. Not that you'll need new but it's heartening to know that such a cheap part sparked the Legend of the 300
hullabaloo
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I feel faint.
rams, the one that lift the legs ?
it did / does happen in forward gear ?
every now and then a little dot of oil hit the surface. ?
rams, the one that lift the legs ?
it did / does happen in forward gear ?
every now and then a little dot of oil hit the surface. ?
colhel
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Could you have had oil in the bilge and the bilge pump was triggered?
julians
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What outdrive do you have?
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If they are dph drives then the most likely candidate is the steering rams, which are relatively cheap and easy to replace.
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If they are dph drives then the most likely candidate is the steering rams, which are relatively cheap and easy to replace.
BruceK
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If it is drive trim rams, you're only 500 yards from me. I have a 10k psi grease gun and the Volvo tool for removing the pins. The Volvo tool is useless but it's designed to eject grease out from hammer blows which is satisfying. The grease gun is more effective if you eat your weetabix. If you can reach your transom shield from the inside fairly easily and you are lucky enough that the ram pins have been inserted with good grease and not corroded in then it is worth attempting them yourself. If it has corroded in though, which they do, it's a butchers job. I'm happy to help you to that point, but after that no.
tico
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before slitting your wrists over Bruces tale of woe, check the piston rods. I had 2 that suffered pitting from electrolysis. had replacement rods made and stripped and replaced thems and the seals.... all possible from outside without removing the cylinders(just the end caps)
Fiddly job but a whole lot easier than replacing cylinders.
Fiddly job but a whole lot easier than replacing cylinders.
BruceK
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Nooo. Master of the half job, you'll just be back doing it again. Ask VP. Deliverance through pain. Consider it a right of passage. Women give birth, we have Ram Pins ?
BruceK
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I'm never going to offload my excess rams at this rate 
hullabaloo
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i am feeling a little better,
yes the legs are dph,
at this point i am not going to get the boat lifted, i was worried about oil ingest in to the gear box but i will take my chance on the steering rams.
thanks for your kind offer bruce, but i will get both legs taken off and serviced in one swoop of the cheque book at the end of the season,
i think a good plan is to keep an eye on the power steering fluid.
thanks all.
julians
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You can tell if it's the steering rams by finding a calm bit of water which is really clean, drop the Anchor, turn the engine off. Then wait for the water to settle down. The have someone turn the steering lock to lock a few time while you stand on the bathing platform and watch the water surface. If oil appears on the surface as the steering is turned its almost certainly a failed ram(s).
I think they're about 200 quid per ram and dead easy to change.
It's the most likely cause of oil on the water with a dph drive.
BruceK
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If it isn't though, do the same raising and lowering your legs. If you see oil it's the drives. 
Good news though is you have screw in pivot pins for that transom. Looks like you dodged a bullet. Happy days. I could tell you stories about mine and the rest of us DPD and DPE boys. Cost you a bottle of wine at the River Festival this weekend though. I'll even introduce you to a mate who lived for 5 weeks at the back of my engines while I swore at him to crank that extractor bolt from outside in the pouring winter rain while I was working that grease gun and blowtorch. A bottle is cheap mind. Make it two, and we can discuss the price of some better than new rams while we are at it
Good news though is you have screw in pivot pins for that transom. Looks like you dodged a bullet. Happy days. I could tell you stories about mine and the rest of us DPD and DPE boys. Cost you a bottle of wine at the River Festival this weekend though. I'll even introduce you to a mate who lived for 5 weeks at the back of my engines while I swore at him to crank that extractor bolt from outside in the pouring winter rain while I was working that grease gun and blowtorch. A bottle is cheap mind. Make it two, and we can discuss the price of some better than new rams while we are at it
oldgit
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You can normally tell by the smell if it is hydraulic or gear oil.Cycle the leg, if the oil comes up in big blobs you have your answer.
oldgit
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You can tell by the smell.Acrid and it's hydraulic
BruceK
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You took your time posting. I had to carry your load for you. Unfortunately he has one the new drives on his boat. You cant say Volvo didn't learn from past mistakes.
Portofino
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I will they turned the props around and renamed them IPS .Not satisfied with the after sales back up T/O from outdrives they sprinkled in shed loadsa electrotwackery under the auspices of “ joy stick “ .Creating more income strands .
Front loaded the marketing making it out parking boats could be problematical for those impatient to seek a few hrs lesions .
Sat back watched revenues sky rocket .Clever .
Oh yeh they certainly “ learnt “ how to extract cash from there customers.
julians
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you doom mongers!
it'll be the steering rams, always is with the dph....
it'll be the steering rams, always is with the dph....
BruceK
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Do you have any idea how difficult it is to offload 800 quids worth of rams since cowboys started doing cut price seals? Now I have to wait until a few ram bodies corrode which should be another 5 years.
Seastoke
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Chuck em in the sea like your fridge and props ,
