Not looking good out in the Atlantic

[sailorman]

Hope all are safe

[h=1]Alex Becomes First January Hurricane Since 1938[/h]https://gcaptain.com/2016/01/14/alex-becomes-first-january-hurricane-since-1938/#.VpfY4Flex9M

 

[Sandyman]

Hope all are safe

[h=1]Alex Becomes First January Hurricane Since 1938[/h]https://gcaptain.com/2016/01/14/alex-becomes-first-january-hurricane-since-1938/#.VpfY4Flex9M

Link not working. We have friends in Las Palmas waiting to cross. Might be a bit late this year.

 

[Robert Wilson]

And the Yorkshire Rows? What of them, are they in its path?

I sincerely hope not.

For those who don't know The Yorkshire Rows (double-entendre on Yorkshire Rose) are four ladies of "quite-some years of age" competing to row the Atlantic

 

[macd]

Link not working. We have friends in Gran Canaria waiting to cross. Might be a bit late this year.

Try this one: http://gcaptain.com/2016/01/14/alex-becomes-first-january-hurricane-since-1938/#.VpftMFknu1E

See also Roberto's thread on Scuttlebutt.

 

[sailorman]

Link not working. We have friends in Gran Canaria waiting to cross. Might be a bit late this year.

look on the gcaptain website

 

[Sandyman]

Got it tks. Also seen on Wunderground. Been trying to contact our friends without success.

 

[Wansworth]

Spanish TV has it as a tropical storm going north to the Azores..

 

[Sandyman]

Upgraded to a hurricane at 1500 yesterday.

 

[Robert Wilson]

Just reported on BBC, Alex is the first January Hurricane since 1958.

We're all doomed.

 

[KellysEye]

>Alex Becomes First January Hurricane Since 1938

We were Caribbean from 2004 to 2010, 2005 had the most hurricanes ever and the most Cats 10's, Ivan was the most famous one that year, there was also a hurricane in January 2006.

 

[EU_Cruiser]

Waiting to hear from BiL on Faial, Azores but his last Skype message said that electricity would probably be knocked out so no Internet.

 

[macd]

>Alex Becomes First January Hurricane Since 1938... there was also a hurricane in January 2006.

That would have been Zeta, which formed in December 2005 and continued into Jan 2006. Alex is, and has been singled out as, the first to form in January since all those years ago. Clearly some purveyors of news have been careless with that distinction.

This gives an idea of relative frequencies beyond the normal limits of the hurricane season:

"According to the National Hurricane Center, Alex's formation on Wednesday made it the first tropical or subtropical storm to form in January since 1978. It's also only the fourth known storm to form in January since records began in 1851. As mentioned earlier, Alex is also only the second known hurricane to form in the Atlantic during the month of January.

Based on the long-term average, about once every 10 years, a tropical storm forms before June, most often in the month of May. This includes Tropical Storm Ana, which began as a subtropical storm in early May of 2015, eventually transitioning into a tropical system.

Likewise, roughly once every 10 years, a tropical storm has formed in the month of December. Post-season and pre-season tropical systems are usually relatively weak, in part due to cooler sea-surface temperatures in the winter and spring months, limiting the ability for such storms to intensify."

(I think the '1978' is a typo.)

http://www.weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-alex-atlantic-ocean-azores

 

[ziacek]

... there was also a hurricane in January 2006.

Tropical storm Zeta (30/12/2005 to 6/1/2006), just about made to the hurricane category I. News headline "first January hurricane since 1938" looks better than "first January hurricane since 2006".

 

[macd]

Tropical storm Zeta (30/12/2005 to 6/1/2006), just about made to the hurricane category I. News headline "first January hurricane since 1938" looks better than "first January hurricane since 2006".

See the post above yours. Apologies that my edit to make the point clear came after your post.

 

[ziacek]

See the post above yours.

When I wrote my post I was still only on page 1 and did not see what you had written. I am not sure what you want to say.

 

[macd]

When I wrote my post I was still only on page 1 and did not see what you had written. I am not sure what you want to say.

:ambivalence:
Well, I probably wanted to say this: "Zeta...formed in December 2005 and continued into Jan 2006. Alex is, and has been singled out as, the first to form in January since all those years ago. Clearly some purveyors of news have been careless with that distinction."

In other words, that anyone who described Alex as the first hurricane to form in January since umpteen years ago was perfectly correct.

 

[ziacek]

:ambivalence:
Well, I probably wanted to say this: "Zeta...formed in December 2005 and continued into Jan 2006. Alex is, and has been singled out as, the first to form in January since all those years ago. Clearly some purveyors of news have been careless with that distinction."

In other words, that anyone who described Alex as the first hurricane to form in January since umpteen years ago was perfectly correct.

While perfectly correct, Zeta formed on December 30th and missed January by 2 days. In the scale of a season lasting months 2 days are not very significant. What is more interesting is the water temperature in the area where Alex formed which was not typical above 26 degrees but below 22 degrees. This hurricane was created by upper atmosphere unusually colder air compared to the water below it. However, you can already spot information spin in the news claiming the water was 0.5 to 1 degree warmer than it should be and obviously this temperature increase was caused by global warming.

 

[Robert Wilson]

That would have been Zeta, which formed in December 2005 and continued into Jan 2006. Alex is, and has been singled out as, the first to form in January since all those years ago. Clearly some purveyors of news have been careless with that distinction.


(I think the '1978' is a typo.)

http://www.weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-alex-atlantic-ocean-azores

Maybe not so much a TYPO, more of a "cloth-eared misunderstanding" on my part!
In fact, reading all the above comments, I'm beginning to wonder if I heard any of it correctly!!

Thanks for the info and clarification, all the same.

Still not the place to be in a boat..........

 

[macd]

While perfectly correct, Zeta formed on December 30th and missed January by 2 days. In the scale of a season lasting months 2 days are not very significant. What is more interesting is the water temperature in the area where Alex formed which was not typical above 26 degrees but below 22 degrees...

I don't believe anyone commented on the significance of two days, which is indeed tiny. But posters did suggest reports were wrong when in fact they were not. That...no more, no less...was my point.
Your 'more interesing' point is...well, more interesting.

 

[ziacek]

I don't believe anyone commented on the significance of two days, which is indeed tiny. But posters did suggest reports were wrong when in fact they were not. That...no more, no less...was my point.
Your 'more interesing' point is...well, more interesting.

My point was about reporting news and small details omitted. General public is simply fed the news without thinking or questioning what is presented and creates a picture of a doom based on partial information.