Northshore in trouble???

[Blueboatman]

Ah, there I beg to differ. To get it right, one off, first out of the box( or mould) , all those subtle details, proportions, best use of space during the fitout, even just putting the reinforcements just exactly 'so' when you don't yet know where the 2013-flavour jammers, hatches, winches , multi spreader rigs etc are actually going to go... Not easy. And that means more man hours..

By comparison, what attracted me to buying an older R36 is that it has been in continuous production for over 20 years. Possibly unique in that? That is a awful lot of feedback, from the guys who build it and the people who use it..Some of the off-centre detailing ( for example) of the joinery seriously impresses me ( and I have worked design and wood with my hands all my life)..the ergonomics I find simply superb, there are no instant shortcuts to that, and it can all be taken to bits screw by screw, as any custom fitout should....which is always handy, like...
So, it was viable and straightforward to me to usefully upgrade details, rig handling etc during refit. In a sense I suspect less R n D goes into a new AWB design which has a production run of what, 4 or 5 years?

So, waffling aside, I would suggest that resurrecting an old mould and fit out may have a lot of detail to work out, such is the idiosyncrasy of boatbuilding . Depends how fussy one is and how much spare time one is willing to put in to problem solve and direct these custom top notch independent outfitters ....?

 

[sailorman]

Ah, there I beg to differ. To get it right, one off, first out of the box( or mould) , all those subtle details, proportions, best use of space during the fitout, putting the reinforcements just exactly 'so' when you don't yet know where the 2013 jammers, hatches, winches , multi spreader rigs etc are actually going to go... Not easy. And that means more man hours..

By comparison, what attracted me to buying an older R36 is that it has been in continuous production for over 20 years. Possibly unique in that? That is a awful lot of feedback, from the guys who build it and the people who use it..Some of the off-centre detailing ( for example) of the joinery seriously impresses me ( and I have worked design and wood with my hands all my life)..the ergonomics I find simply superb, there are no instant shortcuts to that, and it can all be taken to bits screw by screw, as any custom fitout should....which is always handy, like...
So, it was viable and straightforward to me to usefully upgrade details, rig handling etc during refit. In a sense I suspect less R n D goes into a new AWB design which has a production run of what, 4 or 5 years?

I would have thought that CAD would elimination those design /gear position problems.
i think many AWB`s have the internals designed first then wrap a hull around them to keep the water out

 

[Blueboatman]

I use cad. Full size mock ups work too. Redoing it when it plainly doesn't quite work is ' quelle drag'.
I was quite impressed in my early days when 'a famous designer' said; "yup, I ( he, not moi, that time), got that wrong, we're going to lower the whole ceiling, cornices, bookshelves.. By two inches".. He was right of course hey ho!