Nice trip up the Ouse spoiled

macnorton said:
As soon as a sailing boat starts the engine sails up or not it is legally classed as a motor boat as it is under power and does not have the right of way over a power boat, but I didn't expect you to know that?
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It isn't under power until it is "propelled" by the engine. Engine running, not in gear and it can still be a sailing boat under colregs and it never has right of way over a power boat, just sometimes the power boat has to give way.
 
macnorton said:
As soon as a sailing boat starts the engine sails up or not it is legally classed as a motor boat as it is under power and does not have the right of way over a power boat, but I didn't expect you to know that?
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????

That's exactly what he said, the sail is irrelevant & there is no such thing as "right of way" in the IRPC. The stand on vessel still has an obligation to avoid a collision if the other party does not do as required of it.

I suggest you go away & do a bit of thinking about what you have posted before you try insulting other people's knowledge of the Col regs.
 
I don't think you've given enough credit to the other poor non race boats who also took their lives in their hands G (:rolleyes:). I feel they need representation in your sketch but as I know you were far too busy trying to hold your own at this point, you would not have been aware of their positions at the time. I shall give you guidance here: Please place one 30ish foot raggie in the pool just approaching the passage past The Jolly. IN his port side bow, please place one racing dinghy followed by another trying to avoid an American cop car style pile up. Please place another raggie (40ish ft) toward the top of the pool in your sketch having exited his berth at Swanwick and attempting to make his way through and into the channel. Here we come to a 21ft mobo stuck just in front of my berth with no hope of going anywhere due to the dozen or so racing dinghies hovering/tacking in the pool. Please place said 'melee' of dinghies in all and every position in the pool.
At this point I leave my vantage point to check on your progress (or lack of it lol) to see you taking cover just inside 'D' pontoon where, for some reason known only to themselves, you were still being lambasted for having the audacity to be on the water at all 'what'.
Please amend accordingly.
L
:)
 
lisilou said:
I don't think you've given enough credit to the other poor non race boats who also took their lives in their hands G (:rolleyes:). I feel they need representation in your sketch but as I know you were far too busy trying to hold your own at this point, you would not have been aware of their positions at the time. I shall give you guidance here: Please place one 30ish foot raggie in the pool just approaching the passage past The Jolly. IN his port side bow, please place one racing dinghy followed by another trying to avoid an American cop car style pile up. Please place another raggie (40ish ft) toward the top of the pool in your sketch having exited his berth at Swanwick and attempting to make his way through and into the channel. Here we come to a 21ft mobo stuck just in front of my berth with no hope of going anywhere due to the dozen or so racing dinghies hovering/tacking in the pool. Please place said 'melee' of dinghies in all and every position in the pool.
At this point I leave my vantage point to check on your progress (or lack of it lol) to see you taking cover just inside 'D' pontoon where, for some reason known only to themselves, you were still being lambasted for having the audacity to be on the water at all 'what'.
Please amend accordingly.
L
:)
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Blimey Lisa, looks like I got off lightly ;)
 
SLC said:
Crickey these dinghy sailors have really left you scarred, a sketch now, whatever next?
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:)

Last week it was someone going too fast in a straight line, this week someone too slow in a zig zag...
I feel for you Garyo...:)

Next time we have Tall Ships in Falmouth come down, absolutely mental and not an expletive or mooning heard nor seen, would be slightly tougher to sketch though!
 
Nigelpickin said:
Do you know what? I very much suspect that Gary can handle it....there are far more sensitive flowers on here that probably couldn't ;)

(Im counting me as one btw) :)
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I agree, those dinghy sailors are pack animals and their hunting skill second to none, they certainly know their stuff when it comes to ambush techniques.

They remind me of the Orca in so many ways ;)
 
Searush said:
????

That's exactly what he said, the sail is irrelevant & there is no such thing as "right of way" in the IRPC. The stand on vessel still has an obligation to avoid a collision if the other party does not do as required of it.

I suggest you go away & do a bit of thinking about what you have posted before you try insulting other people's knowledge of the Col regs.
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Perhaps you should check on that one, its under power in gear of not because the engine can be used to avoid an incident and the boat is no longer at the mercy of the wind, Otherwise a mobo in neutral could claim right of way.
 
FFS, I wasn't there either, but can confirm that all dinghy racers should be removed from their dinghies, taken to a place of execution and shot, so that mobers aren't frightened by them anymore.

Get a grip people, is it end of summer paranoia?
 
This thread needs to close folk. It has completely moved from the original point although I'll probably be berated for making this comment. Lets all be friends, we have a great hobby in common (and I do mean in common and there are a wide range of experience with the varied methods of getting on the water). Really surprised at the vitriolic rhetoric in this thread.
 
macnorton said:
Perhaps you should check on that one, its under power in gear of not because the engine can be used to avoid an incident and the boat is no longer at the mercy of the wind, Otherwise a mobo in neutral could claim right of way.
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No, it is only under power if "propelled" by the machinery, it isn't under power if the engine is out of gear. A mobo can never claim "right of way" because right of way only exists in the Racing Rules of Sailing. A motorboat cannot claim sailing rights in neutral even if he is at the mercy of the wind because he has no sails and cannot sail.
 
Nigelpickin said:
:)

Last week it was someone going too fast in a straight line, this week someone too slow in a zig zag...
I feel for you Garyo...:)

Next time we have Tall Ships in Falmouth come down, absolutely mental and not an expletive or mooning heard nor seen, would be slightly tougher to sketch though!
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I'd set him off on his own in future, motorboats out to get him last week, little dinghies this week. What next? I'd put my money on a close encounter with a Wightlink ferry, they're particularly sneaky. Easy to draw though :encouragement:
 
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