Next boat Azimut 39 or Cranchi 40 Atlantique

I´ve had a Sea Ray 400 Sundancer earlier and the handling with shafts is as you say great. Love it and it makes docking a pleasure and fun :)

You guys who own a Azimut 39. How does it look inside the lockers in the picture? Just empty storage? images.jpg
 
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Rickard said:
I´ve had a Sea Ray 400 Sundancer earlier and the handling with shafts is as you say great. Love it and it makes docking a pleasure and fun :)

You guys who own a Azimut 39. How does it look inside the lockers in the picture? Just empty storage? View attachment 49368
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Port locker empty, apart from the manual fire system actuator. Starboard locker contains the shorepower main connector, plus manual bilge pump. Mine also contains the galvanic isolator, and shorepower cable. There is another large locker on the starboard side to the left of the stairs to the stbd side decking. Lots of room in here. The lazerette is also large and easy to access. Lots of stowage rom in there too.
On the bow, I think you could construct a small platform to go above the anchor ramp and winch, should you need to also construct a forward gangway to shore. This could be stored in the anchor locker that also has a lot of stowage.
 
rafiki_ said:
There is another large locker on the starboard side to the left of the stairs to the stbd side decking. Lots of room in here. The lazerette is also large and easy to access. Lots of stowage rom in there too...anchor locker that also has a lot of stowage.
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Rikard is not looking for storage Rafiki. He wants to bridge/close up the transom gap in custom GRP work and the question then arises about what is in those 2 lockers. The things you list inside those lockers are all easily moved, fortunately for Rickard.
 
jfm said:
Rikard is not looking for storage Rafiki. He wants to bridge/close up the transom gap in custom GRP work and the question then arises about what is in those 2 lockers. The things you list inside those lockers are all easily moved, fortunately for Rickard.
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Sorry, I missed that JFM. if he wants to fill the stbd transom gate, then it would be sensible to move the shore power socket and bilge pump to the port locker. He can then run seating round the stbd side of the cockpit.
 
Sounds good
Then I could install a windlass in the port locker and then get some type of solution with a bow roller that is lowered in to the swim platform.
When boating out on the islands the bow roller would be good placed on the port side as the bathing ladder is on the starboard side.
If I can get a bow roller that is lowered down in the swim platform I could just release the anchor a meter when docking with stern. Then there is no part to trip on. Only a smaller gap.

Is the swim platform open underneath or closed?
 
Rickard said:
Sounds good
Then I could install a windlass in the port locker and then get some type of solution with a bow roller that is lowered in to the swim platform.
When boating out on the islands the bow roller would be good placed on the port side as the bathing ladder is on the starboard side.
If I can get a bow roller that is lowered down in the swim platform I could just release the anchor a meter when docking with stern. Then there is no part to trip on. Only a smaller gap.

Is the swim platform open underneath or closed?
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The stern port bit (cleat) is mounted above the locker, with its fairlead. You may have to reinforce the load platform, but I think a winch head would work ok there. You could then mount a new bit on the transom.
Not sure what you mean about the swim platform, open or closed? It is moulded into the hull. The recovery ladder stows inside the platform on the stbd side.
 
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rafiki_ said:
The stern port bit (cleat) is mounted above the locker, with its fairlead. You may have to reinforce the load platform, but I think a winch head would work ok there. You could then mount a new bit on the transom.
Not sure what you mean about the swim platform, open or closed? It is moulded into the hull. The recovery ladder stows inside the platform on the stbd side.
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Most of the boats with this type of swim platform has GRP coverd on the underside but for example the Cranchi 34 Zaffiro doesn´t have it like that. The swim platform looks like all others but on the underside it´s open(like a huge opening). So you could say that the swim platform is like a shell. Not that other ones are massive but I hope you see what I mean
 
Actually, I think it's fair to call the AZ39 platform massive, 'cause under most of it there's the hull structure, no less!
It's very different from the Z34 (and also the Atl40 for that matter), because in those boats the platform is attached to the stern, and completely overhanging from it.
Mind, nothing wrong with the latter solution, though arguably if you don't have a lifting platform you might as well wish to have a longer hull... :)
 
If the swim platform on Cranchi 40 is the same as on the 34 it makes it even easier to install the bow roller

A friend of mine who is a broker called me today from Italy. He´s there and buying boats for customer. He had been looking at a Azimut 39 and 42 just to buy and sell. He had the same feelings as me about the two entrences and the layout on the bridge.
He might buy the 39. Hope so so I get to see it


Ok so here we are now :)
The most important good and bads
Cranchi will only need a diesel heater and a easy installed windlass in the stern. No custom job needed either in the nose or bow roller/swimplatform
Less draft
Huge swim platform
Volvo engines is always good the day it´s time to sell in Sweden. Many swedes think that Volvo Penta is something thad God created :D
Looks a little older

The Azimut is a little wider and have more modern look
The twin entrances is :disgust:
Not to happy about the layout on the bridge(might change when seeing it)
Need custom job in the nose and the job with the bow roller solution in the stern. Will probably cost a lot
Big fridge
Probably a little roomier due to the wider beam
10cm more draft


Without have seen the boats in real it feels like the Cranchi is the choice for me
 
Rickard said:
Most of the boats with this type of swim platform has GRP coverd on the underside but for example the Cranchi 34 Zaffiro doesn´t have it like that. The swim platform looks like all others but on the underside it´s open(like a huge opening). So you could say that the swim platform is like a shell. Not that other ones are massive but I hope you see what I mean
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Doesn't that create a load of drag?
 
This one has my name on it :)
http://se.yachtworld.com/baatar/2000/Cranchi-Atlantique-40-2599250/country.kroatien#.VO7nFvmG99Z
Updated boat with low hours and no Med specs.
Missing passarelle and AC/heating would make this one a little hard to sell in the Med right?
For me it´s not interesting with the Med specs
It´s also missing radar. I like to have a radar but in my years of boating I have pretty much never had use for the radar on the boats that I owned that have had it.
For a boat that is in the Med and missing the Med specs and radar this should probably be a opportunity to get a good offer accepted?
I assume that most of the buyers want the radar, passarelle and AC/heating and that would cost a lot to add to this boat
Transport from Slovenia to Kiel about 1400km shouldn´t be to bad either

Havn´t sold my boat yet and don´t think I dare to buy another one before it´s sold :(
 
Rickard said:
This one has my name on it :)
http://se.yachtworld.com/baatar/2000/Cranchi-Atlantique-40-2599250/country.kroatien#.VO7nFvmG99Z
Updated boat with low hours and no Med specs.
Missing passarelle and AC/heating would make this one a little hard to sell in the Med right?
For me it´s not interesting with the Med specs
It´s also missing radar. I like to have a radar but in my years of boating I have pretty much never had use for the radar on the boats that I owned that have had it.
For a boat that is in the Med and missing the Med specs and radar this should probably be a opportunity to get a good offer accepted?
I assume that most of the buyers want the radar, passarelle and AC/heating and that would cost a lot to add to this boat
Transport from Slovenia to Kiel about 1400km shouldn´t be to bad either

Havn´t sold my boat yet and don´t think I dare to buy another one before it´s sold :(
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While I used to be in the 'old school simple mechanics are better', since moving over to KAD300's, i'll never go back to mechanical throttles... they're beautiful compared to the older generation.

That said, that's a whole lot of boat for 99,000 euro (and prob deduct 10% haggling)
 
2pence on Cranchi.

I had a Cranchi 33 Endurance. This is a giant speed boat. I could not shift if for love nor money as it was in the Uk and very much a med boat in both style and brand.

The boat was in my view very well built. Cranchi use the "Lexus" method which is to build in a load of stuff as standard, but then not allow many variations. As such they can build the same boat time and time again . This keeps cost down.

If you take off a panel in a Cranchi you will find moulded GRP behind it. Do that same on a Fairline and you will find a hand crafted wooden frame. The moulding makes a lot more sense to me as (a) you never see the lovely wood work and (b) it is a lot cheaper to build ..... as long as you build lots of them and Cranchi are a volume builder.

After the Cranchi we went to a Targa 40. Was the Targa nicer, yes, but not by some daft margin.

The only thing to bear in mind is that Cranchi is a med brand. We are in Mallorca and there are plenty of them about but in the UK they will be relatively difficult to move on as they are less well known. Azimuth I suspect suffers from the same issue as BA Peters found to their cost. As long as this is reflected in the price you pay ( and the bid you make for it) then all good.
 
Yes all the Cranchi owners seems very satified with their choice. Have had two friends who have had and has a Smeraldo 37 and Zaffiro 34 so I have experinced the brand a lot

So will they have a hard time selling this particular boat due to the loss of AC/heat, passarelle and radar?
A similar boat from same year who has the above extras sell for approximately 90000-100000 depending on hours and condition
Would £85000 be a realistic price you think?
 
I'm delighted with the choice I made, the Atlantique 40 is stylish (IMHO) and very well built. I must have looked at 20 boats before settling on this one, l think it's well spec'd and will keep the family safe while providing a lot of fun.
 
Well done! All the best for your search, and keep us posted. :encouragement:

I meant to ask before, but I forgot: what's the speedboat in your avatar? A pretty fast machine, by the look of her...
 
MapisM said:
Well done! All the best for your search, and keep us posted. :encouragement:

I meant to ask before, but I forgot: what's the speedboat in your avatar? A pretty fast machine, by the look of her...
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Thanks :)

The boat in my avatar is a Renegade 29 with 225hp x 2 that a friend of mine used to own. Funny boat with a small cabin for two in the bow
I took these pictures just out of Lysekil a nice day in 2012
Somewhere behind the horizon is where most of you guys are located ;)
 

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