Newby anchoring question

MapisM said:
Blimey folks, I'm amazed to see how any kind of anchoring thread can still generate colregs-like debates...! :D
The OP is talking about a 16' boat with a small o/b, he just wants to use her "for pottering about, visiting beaches and a little light fishing". And he clearly rules out overnighting.
What's wrong in telling him that the cheapest anchor he'll find, with a few meters of chain and some rope, will be more than good enough?
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I agree in prInciple but the area where he's fishing is an anchor graveyard.
 
MapisM said:
Blimey folks, I'm amazed to see how any kind of anchoring thread can still generate colregs-like debates...! :D
The OP is talking about a 16' boat with a small o/b, which he just wants to use "for pottering about, visiting beaches and a little light fishing". And he clearly rules out overnighting.
What's wrong in telling him that the cheapest anchor he'll find, with a few meters of chain and some rope, will be more than good enough?
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It's the ronca guy winding folk up again. Theres no anchor any good except a ronca.

Where as, it's been proved here many times, that the weight of the boat hardly ever reaches the anchor. It's the chain that does the work.

I agree. I'd start off with a desent length of chain and some thing like a brick, then about six times depth worth of rope.
 
hlb said:
Where as, it's been proved here many times, that the weight of the boat hardly ever reaches the anchor. It's the chain that does the work.

I agree. I'd start off with a desent length of chain and some thing like a brick, then about six times depth worth of rope.
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Yep the chain does do most of the work. He could also use a bucket of somekind filled with concrete and failing that get a bruce.
 
ChrisE said:
I see what you are saying but the hole at the top of the shank is close enough to the top that I'm not sure that this could occur. We've used this for three years now and the only problem we've had is that it trips too often if we don't use enough cable ties.
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Well, if it's working for you, fair do's.

MapisM said:
Blimey folks, I'm amazed to see how any kind of anchoring thread can still generate colregs-like debates...! :D
The OP is talking about a 16' boat with a small o/b, which he just wants to use "for pottering about, visiting beaches and a little light fishing". And he clearly rules out overnighting.
What's wrong in telling him that the cheapest anchor he'll find, with a few meters of chain and some rope, will be more than good enough?
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Thought i did that in post #2 lol

(Ok, i didn't tell him to trip it as i'm not that familiar with his region)
 
hlb said:
It's the ronca guy winding folk up again. Theres no anchor any good except a ronca.

Where as, it's been proved here many times, that the weight of the boat hardly ever reaches the anchor. It's the chain that does the work.

I agree. I'd start off with a desent length of chain and some thing like a brick, then about six times depth worth of rope.
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Guess he must have forgot to take his medication Haydn.

Even the Rocna sites doesn't tell you NOT to use chain.

http://www.rocna.com/kb/Rode_optimizations
 
When our fishing boats in Barbados go bottom fishing, they often work in seriously deep waters - 300'+ is common, in the pursuit of red snappers (using hand lines!)
Their standard anchor is a homemade grapnel - it might have 4 prongs welded on to a steel bar, or the prongs might be in cement inside a steel pipe.
The larger the boat, the larger the diameter of the prongs - for a small boat you could use fairly small diameter steel rods.
When in prong mode, they grab hold of anything they can hook on to the sea bed - when it is time to weigh anchor, if the anchor is snagged on the bottom (happens quite often) the rods are simply straightened out (by application of some welly on the engine), and then re-bent in to shape again prior to anchoring in the next location.
 
hlb said:
It's the ronca guy winding folk up again. Theres no anchor any good except a ronca.
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You must have missed my post above where I recommended a Danforth.

Much more fun to create a bit of drama though isn't it? Apologies to the OP.

PaulGooch said:
Guess he must have forgot to take his medication Haydn.

Even the Rocna sites doesn't tell you NOT to use chain.

http://www.rocna.com/kb/Rode_optimizations
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I know it's fun to resort to personal attacks when you lose the ability to further the argument itself. But in the interest of providing actually sensible information to the OP, rather than simply blindly repeating the old wives' tales, you might have the wherewithal to consider that, just possibly, you fail to understand the facts.

Nobody, including myself, is suggesting you don't use chain at all. As with HLB, I expect you've skimmed over my post above and missed the part where I suggest a chain leader. There is good reason to do so. It has nothing to do with the anchor's performance or lack of.

My somewhat more abrupt response above was in response to the utter bunk that implies the anchor is worthless, the chain does all the work, and without chain the anchor won't hold hardly at all. If people are going to state with such certainty that black is white, they should expect to be roundly corrected by more knowledgeable people - it is right that this occurs, otherwise the likes of the OP end up totally misled.

Here's that chain rode doing all the work:
 
craigsmith said:
You must have missed my post above where I recommended a Danforth.

Much more fun to create a bit of drama though isn't it? Apologies to the OP.


I know it's fun to resort to personal attacks when you lose the ability to further the argument itself. But in the interest of providing actually sensible information to the OP, rather than simply blindly repeating the old wives' tales, you might have the wherewithal to consider that, just possibly, you fail to understand the facts.

Nobody, including myself, is suggesting you don't use chain at all. As with HLB, I expect you've skimmed over my post above and missed the part where I suggest a chain leader. There is good reason to do so. It has nothing to do with the anchor's performance or lack of.

My somewhat more abrupt response above was in response to the utter bunk that implies the anchor is worthless, the chain does all the work, and without chain the anchor won't hold hardly at all. If people are going to state with such certainty that black is white, they should expect to be roundly corrected by more knowledgeable people - it is right that this occurs, otherwise the likes of the OP end up totally misled.

Here's that chain rode doing all the work:
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Ah, i see why we disagree now and why you'd disagree with the vast majority of boaters, we actually use our anchors on boats, in the water. I can honestly say, i have only ever parked on the sand once and i found then that i didn't even need an anchor at all.
 
Blimey, - I didn't know I was opening such a can of worms! Thanks for all the replys though and I think I can work out a consensus from all this!
 
MapisM said:
Blimey folks, I'm amazed to see how any kind of anchoring thread can still generate colregs-like debates...! :D
The OP is talking about a 16' boat with a small o/b, which he just wants to use "for pottering about, visiting beaches and a little light fishing". And he clearly rules out overnighting.
What's wrong in telling him that the cheapest anchor he'll find, with a few meters of chain and some rope, will be more than good enough?
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HOW VERY DARE YOU - using common sense on an anchoring debate! I intend to get you banned for being sensible! :D:D:D
 
MapisM said:
See? Raggies & stinkies don't necessarily have always different views, after all... :)
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TBH, all the Raggies & Stinkies I've actually met (as opposed to virtually annoyed) have been the most remarkably pleasant & interesting people. And have had quite similar views (if not on politics, religion, global warming, anchoring, ColRegs, waders . . . . . etc!) :D
 
Searush said:
TBH, all the Raggies & Stinkies I've actually met (as opposed to virtually annoyed) have been the most remarkably pleasant & interesting people.
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Yup, I can second that.
But it's a long winter, we're all bound to be a bit virtually annoyed in this hemisphere these days, aren't we...? :)
 
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