New Two stroke outboard.

[john_morris_uk]

THIS IS NOT A CHANCE TO DISCUSS BREXIT!!

Simple question. As we’re now no longer a member of the EU can we buy new two stroke outboards again? Or do we still have to go to the CI’s or claim(?) that it’s for commercial use?

 

[TiggerToo]

This soo tempting.

Are you practicing being Lucifer?



How does the saying go: "... lead us not into temptation..."

 

[mainsail1]

When Brexit took place, all EU laws that we had adopted previously were adopted into UK law so unless this aspect has been repealed since (and I don't think it has) the rules still apply.

 

[TiggerToo]

THIS IS NOT A CHANCE TO DISCUSS BREXIT!!

Simple question. As we’re now no longer a member of the EU can we buy new two stroke outboards again? Or do we still have to go to the CI’s or claim(?) that it’s for commercial use?

srly

why not consider an E outboard?

Converted this year, and I am still enjoying the epiphany of the newly converted. E for Evangelical!

 

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srly

why not consider an E outboard?

Converted this year, and I am still enjoying the epiphany of the newly converted. E for Evangelical!

Me too. Never go back.

 

[geem]

Me too. Never go back.

How's the wakeboarding doing?
We couldn't do without our 15hp two stroke?

 

[Sybarite]

How's the wakeboarding doing?
We couldn't do without our 15hp two stroke?

As do Delos and Sailing Panda as examples.

 

[Minerva]

I don't believe you can buy one as a man on the street.

I've noted that outboard suppliers require a company headed letter inorder to purchase a 2 stroke. I have wondered what they then do with said letter or whether it just just gets filed away somewhere to go in the bin...

 

[john_morris_uk]

When Brexit took place, all EU laws that we had adopted previously were adopted into UK law so unless this aspect has been repealed since (and I don't think it has) the rules still apply.

Thanks. I thought that was probably the case, but I knew someone on the forum would know for sure.

I’m not sure that an electric outboard is really going to cut the mustard for our plans for long-term living on board and cruising off into the sunset. Charging will always be an issue, and also to the outboard and tender live on davits 99% of the time I can’t quite get my head around a way of charging an outboard’s battery regularly when it’s suspended off the back of the boat. Petrol is relatively cheap and a very easy source of energy to carry around. Also when you’re living on board your dinghy becomes your car and the ability to plane at high speeds distances across an anchorage to go to the shops becomes attractive.

 

[Gary Fox]

They will have to pry my 3.5 Tohatsu two-stroke out of my cold, dead hands.

 

[john_morris_uk]

They will have to pry my 3.5 Tohatsu two-stroke out of my cold, dead hands.

And my 4hp Yamaha from mine.

 

[NormanS]

Funnily enough, I changed my elderly two stroke for a new air cooled four stroke, and would never go back. It weighs the same. No messing about with silly amounts of two stroke oil, and no salt building up in the water cooling galleries. When cruising, there's no realistic way of flushing an outboard with fresh water.

 

[geem]

Funnily enough, I changed my elderly two stroke for a new air cooled four stroke, and would never go back. It weighs the same. No messing about with silly amounts of two stroke oil, and no salt building up in the water cooling galleries. When cruising, there's no realistic way of flushing an outboard with fresh water.

Separate tank on ours so we mix up 20 litres at a time. Hose from our deckwash can do seawater or freshwater with direct connection to engine leg. Easy to fresh rinse. For us there isn't a four stroke anywhere near as light as a 15hp Yam Enduro
It horse for courses. We all have different requirements out of our tender depending on how we cruise. We prefer to anchor so our tender is our car. Anchoring in a great spot isn't always close to amenities. Running into town in our 3.8m hard dinghy and big engine is easy. What you pay in most marinas for one night stay covers our fuel bill for about a month

 

[sailingmartin]

Also when you’re living on board your dinghy becomes your car and the ability to plane at high speeds distances across an anchorage to go to the shops becomes attractive.

I’m not sure you should be thinking of such anti-social activities like speeding across anchorages, creating wakes we all have to suffer. Therefore please get the smallest outboard possible for a peaceful anchorage for the rest of us.

 

[LittleSister]

It'll be great when they invent oars!

(. . . and tenders that are convenient and efficient to row.)

Maybe when the government changes the current law banning two-stroke outboards they'll ban the four-strokes, too, in order to meet their obesity and carbon reduction strategies.

 

[KompetentKrew]

Funnily enough, I changed my elderly two stroke for a new air cooled four stroke, and would never go back. It weighs the same.

Must be a small one. The 2-stroke Tohatsu 9.8 is 26kg, the 4-stroke is 37kg.

I have the two-stroke and in my opinion it's at the top end of what can be comfortably handled. I'm in my 40's and, on my own, I can manage to get from the yacht to the tender with it and put it on the transom but it's a handful. I think it would be fine with two people of my age, fitness and agility, but as they get older?

A mate has the 4-stroke one - I guess he usually has crew, but I can't imagine how one would manage with it alone.

 

[Greenheart]

When cruising, there's no realistic way of flushing an outboard with fresh water.

I guess it depends how big the engine is, and how restrictive your fresh tank...but if you're using a dinghy, most likely you can reach a source of fresh, ashore. I found a punctured buoyancy tank in a scrapped sailing dinghy in the weeds at our club...

...I cut the top off it, put cringles in to reinforce the PVC, so it can bear the weight of 15 litres of water, hanging around the tiller. It's a tight fit round the prop, but not a problem in neutral. I've never had to leave the engine with seawater in its system.

 

[prv]

the outboard and tender live on davits 99% of the time I can’t quite get my head around a way of charging an outboard’s battery regularly when it’s suspended off the back of the boat.

Not advocating for electric generally, but surely it would be no big deal to add a deck socket near the transom and a couple of metres of charging cable into the dinghy.

Pete

 

[penfold]

AIUI most if not all leccy O/Bs have detachable batteries. I don't think there are any that will provide planing speeds yet though, so the dinosaur juice will have to do for a bit longer.

Thanks. I thought that was probably the case, but I knew someone on the forum would know for sure.

I’m not sure that an electric outboard is really going to cut the mustard for our plans for long-term living on board and cruising off into the sunset. Charging will always be an issue, and also to the outboard and tender live on davits 99% of the time I can’t quite get my head around a way of charging an outboard’s battery regularly when it’s suspended off the back of the boat. Petrol is relatively cheap and a very easy source of energy to carry around. Also when you’re living on board your dinghy becomes your car and the ability to plane at high speeds distances across an anchorage to go to the shops becomes attractive.

 

[john_morris_uk]

I’m not sure you should be thinking of such anti-social activities like speeding across anchorages, creating wakes we all have to suffer. Therefore please get the smallest outboard possible for a peaceful anchorage for the rest of us.

A good point but:
Our little inflatable creates far less wash when planing than when crawling along at slow speed.
Have you ever spent any time in a tropical anchorage? Quite often the wake from a dinghy is the least of your worries. I’ve been in some anchorages where I thought I was going to roll the mast out of the boat at times. Once I was anchored off Rio de Janeiro and had to deploy the kedge to try and make the boat sit facing the swell. The kedge dragged and we left because it was so bad.