New Two stroke outboard.

[Greenheart]

Reverting to the two-stroke theme, while it may not be easy or legally possible to purchase a brand new one, does anything (other than high cost, time and expertise required) prevent anyone from ordering a complete set of spares and assembling a new engine?

 

[Minerva]

Reverting to the two-stroke theme, while it may not be easy or legally possible to purchase a brand new one, does anything (other than high cost, time and expertise required) prevent anyone from ordering a complete set of spares and assembling a new engine?

An air-fix style Yamaha! I like your thinking but whilst it could be a fun project I recon a wee road trip to the CI's could be time better spent!

 

[Greenheart]

Is it so simple? Should we infer that Mainbrayce takes no serious note (or pass on that information to official bodies here) of who they sell new two-strokes to...

...and that they leave checks on where the engines are going, to a South Coast border-inspection team, busy with other matters?

It's not in MB's business interests to put up more barriers to sales than absolutely necessary, but I'd like to know where and whether they draw a line.

 

[TiggerToo]

staying on the 2stroke issue.

Ask yourself: why were 2 strokes (effectively) banned?

to the OP in particular: Is it MORAL to even want to revert this? Is it good for the environment?

(the temptation to digress into the evils of BXT is too strong to resist ? )

 

[Yealm]

Is it so simple? Should we infer that Mainbrayce takes no serious note (or pass on that information to official bodies here) of who they sell new two-strokes to...

...and that they leave checks on where the engines are going, to a South Coast border-inspection team, busy with other matters?

It's not in MB's business interests to put up more barriers to sales than absolutely necessary, but I'd like to know where and whether they draw a line.

I got one (CI 2 stroke) a few years ago as a lightweight engine for a Pogo2.
It wasn't great - seemed poor quality and kept stalling at low revs - i prefer the 2.5 air cooled Honda I got next..

 

[TiggerToo]

Could you get an hour's use out of an electric outboard on tender ? - I guess roughly what I'd get from a tank of petrol..

easy peasy... even at full throttle.

 

[Greenheart]

I got one (CI 2 stroke) a few years ago.
It wasn't great - seemed poor quality and kept stalling at low revs.

What brand was it?

 

[prv]

Reverting to the two-stroke theme, while it may not be easy or legally possible to purchase a brand new one, does anything (other than high cost, time and expertise required) prevent anyone from ordering a complete set of spares and assembling a new engine?

I wouldn't assume that major components like the cylinder block are necessarily available as spares.

Pete

 

[Yealm]

What brand was it?

I can’t remember -Mariner or Yamaha? Is CI selling more than one brand?

 

[Greenheart]

Tohatsu, I believe.

 

[geem]

I got one (CI 2 stroke) a few years ago as a lightweight engine for a Pogo2.
It wasn't great - seemed poor quality and kept stalling at low revs - i prefer the 2.5 air cooled Honda I got next..

You didn't say what you purchased?

 

[Greenheart]

How did you manage not to read the posts written since?

 

[Yealm]

Tohatsu, I believe.

Ah yes, that was it!

 

[Greenheart]

Might be a bit difficult claiming poor build quality under warranty, if they want to know the use the engine has been put to, when it wasn't that for which it had been sold.

Although I'd think commercial and racing purposes would drive a motor harder than our style of irregular tender/auxiliary use...

...then again, regular hard work (with due servicing) seems far better for an engine than an idle life.

 

[Elessar]

Cleaned my two stroke carb out recently. First time in four years. It was like new. Found the problem after I put it back together. The additional inline fuel filter I had added had a hole in it. The reason the carb was perfect is because of the additional filter. New filter installed after four years and running perfectly.

I think this is an excellent idea. What filter did you use?

 

[Elessar]

staying on the 2stroke issue.

Ask yourself: why were 2 strokes (effectively) banned?

to the OP in particular: Is it MORAL to even want to revert this? Is it good for the environment?

(the temptation to digress into the evils of BXT is too strong to resist ? )

Keeping a 2 stroke going is way more environmentally friendly than replacing it with anything.

The hours done by the average boat owner in a tender makes any environmental impact trivial.

 

[Kelpie]

Keeping a 2 stroke going is way more environmentally friendly than replacing it with anything.

The hours done by the average boat owner in a tender makes any environmental impact trivial.

Not saying this is wrong but it would be interesting to run the numbers.
This argument is used against wind turbines and cars, in both cases it tends to be wrong. E.g. for a wind turbine the embodied energy tends to be recouped in six months. With cars the supply chain is pretty efficient and includes a lot of recycling.

But yes a leisure two stroke running a dozen hours a year is not quite in the same league.

 

[TiggerToo]

Keeping a 2 stroke going is way more environmentally friendly than replacing it with anything.

The hours done by the average boat owner in a tender makes any environmental impact trivial.

apart from the fact that I am not sure I agree with the latter statement, the OP was about buying a new one, particularly as now that (because of BXT) we are allowed to plumb the bottom of environmental (and other) standards.

Think of this. Each cigarette but thrown on the pavement, each 55g of dog poo dropped by your mutt,... hardly make any discernible environmental impact... etc

 

[geem]

I think this is an excellent idea. What filter did you use?

Just a simple inline job from car shop

 

[Greenheart]

...particularly as now that (because of BXT) we are allowed to plumb the bottom of environmental (and other) standards.

I thought that was specifically not the case, and that all the EU environmental laws we have observed hitherto, are retained, transposed into UK law, obliging us to do as previously?