New tide tables for old (2017) Reeds Nautical Almanac?

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Last year in Scotland a skipper told me, that there is a book which (kind of?) updates the Reed Nautical Almanac. I'm mostly interested in up-to-date tide tables. Unfortunately I forgot the name of the book he mentioned...

Does someone know if there's a book or something else that will actualise my 2017 Reeds Nautical Almanac? Thanks for any pointers!
 
Admiralty tide tables for the area(s) you require

Most people these days would use some computer based system or an "app" ....
 
Reeds do a loose-leaf version, where individual pages can be added and removed. They then sell annual updates consisting of replacement pages wherever information has changed - so harbour information as well as the tide tables.

I suspect this is what the person you talked with was referring to.

I don't think there's actually much of a saving in buying the update packs versus a new book, and the folder must be bulkier than a conventional binding. Some people like the fact that it lays flat on a table, unlike the full Reeds book, though the spiral-bound area versions ("Channel", "West Coast", etc) lie flat too.

Pete
 
prv said:
Reeds do a loose-leaf version, where individual pages can be added and removed. They then sell annual updates consisting of replacement pages wherever information has changed - so harbour information as well as the tide tables.

I suspect this is what the person you talked with was referring to.
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Unless thing have changed in the last couple of years, the loose leaf update replaces everything so the whole of the previous year get thrown away regardless of whether any changes have occured.
 
prv said:
I don't think there's actually much of a saving in buying the update packs versus a new book, and the folder must be bulkier than a conventional binding.
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Correct on both points. I had the loose leaf version for a couple of years. It's bulkier and not very robust when, as inevitably happens, it flies off the chart table. At fist it was just having to put pages back in but one day soon after it's first update the whole metal ring assembly came away from the folder. I went back to the book-style the next year.
 
What I used to do to save wasting money on new almanacs each year was as follows:- Buy a small local set of tide tables (in my case Portsmouth. 2018 tide tables cost me 95p). For day of passage look up the time of local HW on 95p tide tables. Search through an old almanac to find any date in the year when local HW is almost that same time & height. Then just assume your passage is on that date and use any tidal data in the almanac for that date. All I can say is that it worked for me. Don't expect sunrise and sunset to be correct though.
 
Thanks a lot for all replies. I believe the person meant the 'spiral-bound area versions'. Hmm. But if this is bulky, costs not much less than the book, I think it makes sense to just buy a new book? On the other hand for environmental reason I don't like to throw away an almost perfect (except tide) book.

Do all 'UK boaters' buy a new Reeds book every year? I almost cannot believe this?

Maybe apps then? Do you have a recommendation which Android tide app (paid, not interested in 'free' ad-ware) would go well with last years Reeds. Thanks again.
 
capri said:
Do all 'UK boaters' buy a new Reeds book every year? I almost cannot believe this?
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Many of us do, but plenty do not. Looked at rationally, it's not really necessary - I mostly use a tide app rather than looking them up in the almanac, mostly sail to familiar ports, and use a pilot book when visiting an unfamiliar one. I use the almanac just often enough to be annoying if it wasn't on board - for whatever reason I prefer to work out the tides for a cross-Channel trip the traditional way, and the other day I wanted to know where in Cowes sold gas and found it more convenient to scan a couple of pages of Reeds for the relevant symbol rather than read the text in the full pilot.

capri said:
Maybe apps then? Do you have a recommendation which Android tide app (paid, not interested in 'free' ad-ware) would go well with last years Reeds. Thanks again.
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On an iPhone I use Imray's "Tides Planner" - I believe there is also an Android version. The controls aren't the most intuitive, but it provides everything you could possibly want to know and is easy to use once you understand it.

Pete
 
capri said:
Maybe apps then? Do you have a recommendation which Android tide app (paid, not interested in 'free' ad-ware) would go well with last years Reeds. Thanks again.
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Try Absolute Tides. Tidal dat for UK & further plus tidal stream atlases all offline. Weather when online too.
Derek
 
cpedw said:
Try Absolute Tides. Tidal dat for UK & further plus tidal stream atlases all offline.
Derek
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Looks good, I like offline data. I think I'll go with this app and keep the 2017 Reeds.

prv said:
On an iPhone I use Imray's "Tides Planner" - I believe there is also an Android version.
Pete
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Thank you (but didn't find an Android version -- will try Absolute, as mentioned by Derek).

SteveIOW said:
Search through an old almanac to find any date in the year when local HW is almost that same time & height. Then just assume your passage is on that date and use any tidal data in the almanac for that date. All I can say is that it worked for me. Don't expect sunrise and sunset to be correct though.
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Great idea. Might go well together with an app.
 
Absolute Tides app pn phone plus a relevant regional section of Reeds Almanac stowed in a splashproof sleeve, plus a relevant regional copy of Reeves-Fowkes Tidal Atlas with this year's Cherbourg Tidal Data, downloaded, printed and encapsulated. Bob's yer uncle! Oh, and the same thing with this year's Dover Tide Tables. And a cadged copy or two of my local harbours' tide tables from Harbourmaster's Offices.

Then there are the glossy booklets provided by posh marinas such as Mayflower....
 
capri said:
Do all 'UK boaters' buy a new Reeds book every year? I almost cannot believe this?
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I don't - OK I am a Scot!

I buy one about every seven years and download the Dover tide table every year and used the time difference for each port to work out the time of high and low water.
 
I used to buy the full Reeds every few years, usually when I went on a long trip, and then the cheaper PBO almanac, which has all the tidal data, and updated other bumph, each of the intervening years.

Haven't bothered with the PBO one for a few years (does it still exist?), as I haven't been out and about so much in recent times, but on the rare occasions I have ended up somewhere new, it involved a bit of guesswork and extrapolation from home port tides.
 
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