tcm
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I wonder if anyone has taken delivery of a new boat in chichester recently? I'd love to hear all about it.
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New boats in Chichester
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ParaHandy
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erm .. slight problem ...
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jhr
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Tedious historical context...
Carl Giles owned a number of boats over the years, and sometimes incorporated them into his cartoons.
I think the one in this cartoon is the Halberg-Rassy P28, which he owned in the '60s. I suspect that when he did the cartoon, he was awaiting delivery and hence feeling a bit nervous.
All seems very familiar, for some strange reason. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
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Carl Giles owned a number of boats over the years, and sometimes incorporated them into his cartoons.
I think the one in this cartoon is the Halberg-Rassy P28, which he owned in the '60s. I suspect that when he did the cartoon, he was awaiting delivery and hence feeling a bit nervous.
All seems very familiar, for some strange reason. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
<hr width=100% size=1>Je suis Marxiste - tendance Groucho
jfm
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Oooh yes a new boat in Chichester
Aah, axshully we did, funnily enough, this sunday, yesterday. It was all very fine, jolly nice. I sprayed WD40 all over the engine room as someone recommended.
Actually I learned this sunday you have to be relaxed dealing with boat sellers. You just gotta tell yourself stuff will go worng. Quite a lot. I turned up at peters, asked where "our" boat was. I use inverted commas because we have paid a big deposit but not the balance yet, so I spose it's theirs really. Anyway, there were about 4 or 5 Sq58s round and about so they had to consult the map of the marina. Our boat, number 74, was not there. Much ringing round to find it, and it turns out it is listed as a Targa 58 hence the puter couldn't locate it. Anyway, easy mistake I suppose, and I wasn't fussed about having flybridge anyway, so we trotted off down the pontoon to see "our" boat. It's on the pontoon right by their office (G? can't remeber. Moose, the boat near you on AA is boat 72, the boat show boat, or maybe they've moved em around last few days)
What can I say, twas very fine, just as you'd expect when you step aboard a boat you've been waiting for for, ooh, all of 2 months. Then I had a poke round and a few fairline specials (screw ups to you and me) became apparent. We ordered a certain fabric for the cabin curtains and a different fabric for saloon curtain. It is wrtten on the order. But they gottem the worng way round. At least they did in 3 of the cabins - the other 2 are ok. So, much recurtaining will occur. Then there is a tiny mid cabin (the utility room space, but we ordered it as a cabin) and it has a loo which is meant to be electric, but fairline thort sod that and fitted a manual push-pull instead. Oh and we ordered 8 scatter cushions, but not in THAT fabric......
Thus far I was chill about it, they can fixitall I guess. Whaddya expect. But a big point on my order, exchanged in writing wivvem, was the "no gold" rule. This meant no gold anywhere at all on the boat, else I would go apeshit. All the hinges, taps, shower stuff, door handles, everything, has to be in chrome. I thort they had gottit right, nice silver taps all over the place, then I trundled to the aft crew cabin and aaaargh a brass tap! I am convinced they do this to pissoff customers, must be a Corby Sense Of Humour thing. "This customer has faxed in 16 font capitals the NO GOLD RULE so let's bolt a brass tap to one of his sinks, that'll makeim chuckle eh Darren"
But this is all detail, will get fixed. It was a jolly fine boat, still in the middle of its PDI stuff so I'll go down later in the week for proper play and drive.
One last point, can anyone who has bort a new Fairline lately tell me if they throw in a free tank of diesel? The "jobs list" on board included a "fill it up" item, ticked "done", and the fuel was indeed full. Jolly nice. Well it will be if it's diesel, on current performance they might have whamed something similar-but-not-quite-right in there, like petrol or calor gas or white spirit.......
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Aah, axshully we did, funnily enough, this sunday, yesterday. It was all very fine, jolly nice. I sprayed WD40 all over the engine room as someone recommended.
Actually I learned this sunday you have to be relaxed dealing with boat sellers. You just gotta tell yourself stuff will go worng. Quite a lot. I turned up at peters, asked where "our" boat was. I use inverted commas because we have paid a big deposit but not the balance yet, so I spose it's theirs really. Anyway, there were about 4 or 5 Sq58s round and about so they had to consult the map of the marina. Our boat, number 74, was not there. Much ringing round to find it, and it turns out it is listed as a Targa 58 hence the puter couldn't locate it. Anyway, easy mistake I suppose, and I wasn't fussed about having flybridge anyway, so we trotted off down the pontoon to see "our" boat. It's on the pontoon right by their office (G? can't remeber. Moose, the boat near you on AA is boat 72, the boat show boat, or maybe they've moved em around last few days)
What can I say, twas very fine, just as you'd expect when you step aboard a boat you've been waiting for for, ooh, all of 2 months. Then I had a poke round and a few fairline specials (screw ups to you and me) became apparent. We ordered a certain fabric for the cabin curtains and a different fabric for saloon curtain. It is wrtten on the order. But they gottem the worng way round. At least they did in 3 of the cabins - the other 2 are ok. So, much recurtaining will occur. Then there is a tiny mid cabin (the utility room space, but we ordered it as a cabin) and it has a loo which is meant to be electric, but fairline thort sod that and fitted a manual push-pull instead. Oh and we ordered 8 scatter cushions, but not in THAT fabric......
Thus far I was chill about it, they can fixitall I guess. Whaddya expect. But a big point on my order, exchanged in writing wivvem, was the "no gold" rule. This meant no gold anywhere at all on the boat, else I would go apeshit. All the hinges, taps, shower stuff, door handles, everything, has to be in chrome. I thort they had gottit right, nice silver taps all over the place, then I trundled to the aft crew cabin and aaaargh a brass tap! I am convinced they do this to pissoff customers, must be a Corby Sense Of Humour thing. "This customer has faxed in 16 font capitals the NO GOLD RULE so let's bolt a brass tap to one of his sinks, that'll makeim chuckle eh Darren"
But this is all detail, will get fixed. It was a jolly fine boat, still in the middle of its PDI stuff so I'll go down later in the week for proper play and drive.
One last point, can anyone who has bort a new Fairline lately tell me if they throw in a free tank of diesel? The "jobs list" on board included a "fill it up" item, ticked "done", and the fuel was indeed full. Jolly nice. Well it will be if it's diesel, on current performance they might have whamed something similar-but-not-quite-right in there, like petrol or calor gas or white spirit.......
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NorthernWave
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Moose may have a nice new shiney boat???
Chris
P.S. It's hard work out here in St Maartin. Just finished touring the BVI's. 30 degress, sunshine all round!!!!
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Chris
P.S. It's hard work out here in St Maartin. Just finished touring the BVI's. 30 degress, sunshine all round!!!!
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jimi
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Re: Oooh yes a new boat in Chichester
I believe it is standard practice to fill the water tanks but not the diesel tanks.
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I believe it is standard practice to fill the water tanks but not the diesel tanks.
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TomIsitt
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Oooh! St Maartin, eh? Am off there on Thursday for a week...wassit like? Is the weather OK? Where are the good places to eat/drink? What sort of money do they use there? Any essential info for grubby hack looking for ...um...boaty fun?
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Planty
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You wouldn't happen to be chartering with Virgin Traders would you? We are particularly looking at these with great interest for the late summer and would appreciate any feedback. Paul
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tcm
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Re: virgin traders
not usedem but been a few times and seen a lot on charter, they seemed ok. Dodgy weather late late summer so be careful. Also vipcharter - look like cheaper older boats. Getting airco would make a huge difference imho. st maarten is several hundred miles away - so don't think you can go there from bvi or mebbe they have a base st maarten...hence the junket- erm rigourous mby investigation.
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not usedem but been a few times and seen a lot on charter, they seemed ok. Dodgy weather late late summer so be careful. Also vipcharter - look like cheaper older boats. Getting airco would make a huge difference imho. st maarten is several hundred miles away - so don't think you can go there from bvi or mebbe they have a base st maarten...hence the junket- erm rigourous mby investigation.
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tcm
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Re: st maarten
Euros innit! Cos half the island is dutch (st maarten), half is french (st Martin) .
Not been, but i am told europe-able mobile phones wil work so we can all call you at (your) vast expense.
Sitting about doing sod all is the most popular activity i bet, like the rest of the caribbee.
Careful of the hopper airplanes from antigua: LIAT stands for Luggage In Another Terminal, teehee.
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Euros innit! Cos half the island is dutch (st maarten), half is french (st Martin) .
Not been, but i am told europe-able mobile phones wil work so we can all call you at (your) vast expense.
Sitting about doing sod all is the most popular activity i bet, like the rest of the caribbee.
Careful of the hopper airplanes from antigua: LIAT stands for Luggage In Another Terminal, teehee.
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TomIsitt
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Re: Virgin Traders
I am indeed doing the Virgin Trader thing. I've known this outfit for a few years and they're top fellas. Can't vouch for their customer relations, but their press relations are excellent, and they appear to be a thoroughly professional and competent outfit. Will be writing about my experiences in a forthcoming issue of MBY.
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I am indeed doing the Virgin Trader thing. I've known this outfit for a few years and they're top fellas. Can't vouch for their customer relations, but their press relations are excellent, and they appear to be a thoroughly professional and competent outfit. Will be writing about my experiences in a forthcoming issue of MBY.
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tcm
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Special terms: going apeshit
ooh very good stuff. If they have a few 58s in the marina praps you could suggest quick swap of curtains/cushions with the others if appropriate? Cos I reckon that otheerwise changing the scatter cushions amounts to a major refit and will take several months.
I wd would be wary of thm bodging about with the tap cos a new one with all the fiddling might leak or the place get all scraped and gunky with tools etc.perhaps?
In any case, it is your fault for setting strange terms and they will happily settle for the alternative of them supplying non-gold taps i.e customer going apeshit as you specified. This surely much cheaper for them now, and of course the fitters can't possibly screw up being on the receiving end of a customer going apeshit, can they? In fact I bet that are quite expert at that these days, whereas they mite very easily bugger up refitting a tap.
Perhaps you could negotiate a few more sessions of you going apeshit, altho if the contract says "gold taps OR i'll go apeshit" then it does seem that they have already made their choice in this regard, albeit it sounds a bit ambiguous - they have not restricted the degree to which you can go apeshit nor even the number of times you are allowed to subject them to this treatment.
One note of caution : if they have in fact supplied a gold tap when the contract says "if you supply even a single gold tap then i will go apeshit" or perhaps "all chrome taps to be supplied OR i will go apeshit" then you will obviously be breaking the contract UNLESS you go apeshit, at least on one occassion, and so far it sounds as though you haven't carried out your side of the deal.
It would have been better to go apeshit anyway, without being contractually bound to do so, which might have taken them by surprise and made them do summink.
Very good to get some free diesel anyway.
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ooh very good stuff. If they have a few 58s in the marina praps you could suggest quick swap of curtains/cushions with the others if appropriate? Cos I reckon that otheerwise changing the scatter cushions amounts to a major refit and will take several months.
I wd would be wary of thm bodging about with the tap cos a new one with all the fiddling might leak or the place get all scraped and gunky with tools etc.perhaps?
In any case, it is your fault for setting strange terms and they will happily settle for the alternative of them supplying non-gold taps i.e customer going apeshit as you specified. This surely much cheaper for them now, and of course the fitters can't possibly screw up being on the receiving end of a customer going apeshit, can they? In fact I bet that are quite expert at that these days, whereas they mite very easily bugger up refitting a tap.
Perhaps you could negotiate a few more sessions of you going apeshit, altho if the contract says "gold taps OR i'll go apeshit" then it does seem that they have already made their choice in this regard, albeit it sounds a bit ambiguous - they have not restricted the degree to which you can go apeshit nor even the number of times you are allowed to subject them to this treatment.
One note of caution : if they have in fact supplied a gold tap when the contract says "if you supply even a single gold tap then i will go apeshit" or perhaps "all chrome taps to be supplied OR i will go apeshit" then you will obviously be breaking the contract UNLESS you go apeshit, at least on one occassion, and so far it sounds as though you haven't carried out your side of the deal.
It would have been better to go apeshit anyway, without being contractually bound to do so, which might have taken them by surprise and made them do summink.
Very good to get some free diesel anyway.
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wakeup
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Re: Special terms: going apeshit
I am sure JFM would have had a 'joint and several apeshit clause' so Fline aren't absolved if he goes apeshit just once over one issue, neither does he have to go apeshit over all the issues....I believe it is his choice.
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I am sure JFM would have had a 'joint and several apeshit clause' so Fline aren't absolved if he goes apeshit just once over one issue, neither does he have to go apeshit over all the issues....I believe it is his choice.
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BarryD
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Re: Oooh yes a new boat in Chichester
Congrats John - if you need a boat-hand/fender loser than I'm available! I've still got some money on my CYC club card so I can spring for lunch.
<hr width=100% size=1>Or then again...
Congrats John - if you need a boat-hand/fender loser than I'm available! I've still got some money on my CYC club card so I can spring for lunch.
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BarryD
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Re: Oooh yes a new boat in Chichester
Congrats John - if you need a boat-hand/fender loser than I'm available! I've still got some money on my CYC club card so I can spring for lunch.
<hr width=100% size=1>Or then again...
Congrats John - if you need a boat-hand/fender loser than I'm available! I've still got some money on my CYC club card so I can spring for lunch.
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petem
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Re: Oooh yes a new boat in Chichester
I hope she brings you many hours of pleasure.
Where's the pics?
Pete
P.S. Marine Sales filled mine up with Diesel f.o.c.
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I hope she brings you many hours of pleasure.
Where's the pics?
Pete
P.S. Marine Sales filled mine up with Diesel f.o.c.
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jfm
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TCM, QC, Apeshittery obligations
Cripes! Note to self....do not take tcm on in court (as others have found out). TCM: "Well m'Lud that clause is actually an option written for the benefit of Fairline. Fairline have the right at their sole discretion either to fit chrome taps or demand JFM to go summarily apeshit, as they wish. Furthermore, Fairline have full conduct of the going apeshit mechanics, including all royalty rights re any recordings of the apeshitery, and in valuable consideration for these rights Fairline have fitted one brass tap, as admitted by JFM, which tap is more expensive than the chromes ones fitted cost-cuttingwise to the 4 other cabins."
Thanks Barry, I'll let you now when we get it properly - they are quoting 2 weeks PDI and it only went in the water 27 Jan. Plenty of throttle operative vacancies, and free lunch too!. Last weekend in Feb 27/28th I think is a possible "open house/boat" date - Pete nb. Can't promise for sure till Peters are a bit furhter on with the plumbing and sewing. I owe you reply to PM, have asked around for a suitable lawyer for your mate, but no decent ideas yet, it's not my field as you know. But having read the rest of this thread above, I don't think you could get much better than leading counsel TCM
Photos will follow Pete
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Cripes! Note to self....do not take tcm on in court (as others have found out). TCM: "Well m'Lud that clause is actually an option written for the benefit of Fairline. Fairline have the right at their sole discretion either to fit chrome taps or demand JFM to go summarily apeshit, as they wish. Furthermore, Fairline have full conduct of the going apeshit mechanics, including all royalty rights re any recordings of the apeshitery, and in valuable consideration for these rights Fairline have fitted one brass tap, as admitted by JFM, which tap is more expensive than the chromes ones fitted cost-cuttingwise to the 4 other cabins."
Thanks Barry, I'll let you now when we get it properly - they are quoting 2 weeks PDI and it only went in the water 27 Jan. Plenty of throttle operative vacancies, and free lunch too!. Last weekend in Feb 27/28th I think is a possible "open house/boat" date - Pete nb. Can't promise for sure till Peters are a bit furhter on with the plumbing and sewing. I owe you reply to PM, have asked around for a suitable lawyer for your mate, but no decent ideas yet, it's not my field as you know. But having read the rest of this thread above, I don't think you could get much better than leading counsel TCM
Photos will follow Pete
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Re: Oooh yes a new boat in Chichester
Best of luck with the new toy, jfm. Understand completely about the gold taps, would have done the same myself. When's it off to SoF?
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Best of luck with the new toy, jfm. Understand completely about the gold taps, would have done the same myself. When's it off to SoF?
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penfold
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Re: Virgin Traders
Say hi to James Burgess for me then, and ask him if he's coming to the sub-tropical paradise that is the Clyde for Loch Long Week this year. Tell him we promise it will be sunny for at least 1 day out of 6!!
Cheers,
david
<hr width=100% size=1>Why'd he call me shortie?
Because you're small,...small,...S, M, all.
Say hi to James Burgess for me then, and ask him if he's coming to the sub-tropical paradise that is the Clyde for Loch Long Week this year. Tell him we promise it will be sunny for at least 1 day out of 6!!
Cheers,
david
<hr width=100% size=1>Why'd he call me shortie?
Because you're small,...small,...S, M, all.
penfold
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oggling
Oh yes, and feel free to ogle his daughter Lorna on my behalf!
<hr width=100% size=1>Why'd he call me shortie?
Because you're small,...small,...S, M, all.
Oh yes, and feel free to ogle his daughter Lorna on my behalf!
<hr width=100% size=1>Why'd he call me shortie?
Because you're small,...small,...S, M, all.
