New Boat thread, probably not!

Can’t you carry the stepped mast on board ?

Yes and some do, although our boat LOA is 14m and the mast is around 20m so the overhang is problematic and not loved by lock keepers.

Some sail up to the lakes and then unstep and carry the mast for the tricky sections, and then have the mast stepped to continue the trip but we’d prefer not to have to worry about that and just enjoy the boat with a clear deck...and we’re motorboaters at heart of course ;)
 
You’ve got plenty of brands in the 40’ - 45’ production boat segment, Nauticat, FP, Lagoon, Leopard to name a few and for my money, if you’re considering a power cat then you might as well buy one with a mast and get the best of both worlds - albeit with less hp.

Congratulations

Agreed, a cat might as well be a sailing cat.
The only issue that I can see is the cost of berthing but thats a small price to pay for the extra space that you get.
 
The line from the factory is that the power cats were not that popular - indeed the MY range recentlyly included a 40’ boat but it was short lived. (Long faces and mumbles when brought up as a question during our factory visit!)
Fontaine Pajot, Moorings, Leopard and Bavaria are all getting in on the act but I suspect that either they don’t have the order book of Lagoon or the motor boat volume of the Beneteau / Jeanneau stable to keep them strong and on brand.
I think thats a hangover from the aftermath of the financial crisis when no boats were popular! But now as you have pointed out other power cat manufacturers are piling into that market so there must be demand. Its just seems odd for a major cat builder like Jeanneau to ignore such an obvious market but then what do I know about boatbuilding! Also its not just the 40-50' market but the 50-60' market as well in which, as far as I'm aware, there is only one entrant, the Horizon PC52, which seems to be selling like hot cakes if you believe their publicity. The 630 is indeed a great looking boat but it is simply too large for the bulk of the market

V surprised to hear that Ancasta only get 6 boats to sell a year. That must be very frustrating
 
well, i,ve finally found the time to put together some footage of the trip form les sables d'lonne to vilamoura, from november/december last year....

we've crossed biscay before in breaking bad, but that was at leisure and in company so it was with a bit of healthy anxiety that we headed out into the ocean on a brand new, untested boat.

(thanks to halcyon yachts for their expert and cost effective service)

needn't have worried, the boat performed perfectly, we only managed to sail between lisbon and the algarve but that was fine. the important thing was to get the boat home in one piece and snag any issues that arose, (none).

so the weather behaved, for most of the time, and when it got blowy it was from 180 with lovely big, regular rollers to ride down.

we managed to put 90 hours on the engines before lisbon, averaging 6.5 kts and burning about, (mapism, look away now), 580 litres over the first 600 or so nm.

arriving in the algarve for the second time by boat was terrific, it seems to flatten out as you turn left at cabo st vicente and as we arrived in vilamoura i was left feeling very pleased with the boat and very much looking forward to the next few months of learning to sail....which is currently going very well thanks to youtube

i hope you enjoy the video, (it won't give henry or scubaman a run for their money but it captures the time well i think). i know that we've gone over to the dark side but we'll always be motor boaters at heart, especially ann who is suffering some boaty type of post new boat depression....but she's slowly bonding with the new baby now.

atb nigel and ann

ps - before anyone tells me that those waves are not typical of f7 conditions, you had to be there ;)
pps - thanks to richard and elvia, (idamay of this forum), for meeting me at the dockside in vm, even if you did forget to press record ;)

 
Sorry RD, I guess you’re still not on the water with your ongoing condition....if it’s any consolation, I’m now 2 years clear of my most recent re section and getting fitter every day - I know my situation is not as serious as yours but when I told my Gastro and surgeon that we were sailing off 2 months after the op they had a bit of a fit, but it’s been possible thanks to great long distance support from the NHS and the private system in Portugal and of course Ann who does all the heavy lifting...
So I hope for you that better times are around a fast approaching corner because being on the water is as close to a legitimate alternative medicine as you can find, imho...
 
Very nice video summary of a great experience, thanks for sharing it with us. :encouragement:

Ref. the following...
before anyone tells me that those waves are not typical of f7 conditions, you had to be there ;)
There's no need to have been there.
Anyone who should argue about that kind of sea not being too rough, probably has never been in a sea where you must point the camera upward, to make a wave clip! :rolleyes:
 
Very nice vid Nigel. Until the vid reached Lisbon I was tempted to write asking what the big sticky up pole in the middle of the boat was for;) Seriously, she's a lovely boat and I hope both of you are very happy with her
 
Sorry RD, I guess you’re still not on the water with your ongoing condition....if it’s any consolation, I’m now 2 years clear of my most recent re section and getting fitter every day - I know my situation is not as serious as yours but when I told my Gastro and surgeon that we were sailing off 2 months after the op they had a bit of a fit, but it’s been possible thanks to great long distance support from the NHS and the private system in Portugal and of course Ann who does all the heavy lifting...
So I hope for you that better times are around a fast approaching corner because being on the water is as close to a legitimate alternative medicine as you can find, imho...

Thanks, new boat finally goes in water next week, will try to get on her the week after. Keep on going for procedures & may end up with a liver & intestine transplant if all else fails, just keep on going, sooner or later something has to give .
The goal of cruising on the south coast keeps me going.
 
Totally enjoyed that video, looks like you had a great time. Please post more when you get the time. :encouragement::cool:
 
Great video Nigel and the first of many of your forthcoming adventures I hope. LV says sorry for the absent minded finger trouble. Please don't tell her I said that.

R.

well i forgive her, not least because the 20 seconds that she did get have an expletive track that continues to make me smile 6 months on, (don’t tell her i said that ;)

btw - the forum is severely lacking in regard to your epic 2018 cruise - any chance of a thread anytime soon?

speak soon
n
 
well, i,ve finally found the time to put together some footage of the trip form les sables d'lonne to vilamoura, from november/december last year....

we've crossed biscay before in breaking bad, but that was at leisure and in company so it was with a bit of healthy anxiety that we headed out into the ocean on a brand new, untested boat.

(thanks to halcyon yachts for their expert and cost effective service)

needn't have worried, the boat performed perfectly, we only managed to sail between lisbon and the algarve but that was fine. the important thing was to get the boat home in one piece and snag any issues that arose, (none).

so the weather behaved, for most of the time, and when it got blowy it was from 180 with lovely big, regular rollers to ride down.

we managed to put 90 hours on the engines before lisbon, averaging 6.5 kts and burning about, (mapism, look away now), 580 litres over the first 600 or so nm.

arriving in the algarve for the second time by boat was terrific, it seems to flatten out as you turn left at cabo st vicente and as we arrived in vilamoura i was left feeling very pleased with the boat and very much looking forward to the next few months of learning to sail....which is currently going very well thanks to youtube

i hope you enjoy the video, (it won't give henry or scubaman a run for their money but it captures the time well i think). i know that we've gone over to the dark side but we'll always be motor boaters at heart, especially ann who is suffering some boaty type of post new boat depression....but she's slowly bonding with the new baby now.

atb nigel and ann

ps - before anyone tells me that those waves are not typical of f7 conditions, you had to be there ;)
pps - thanks to richard and elvia, (idamay of this forum), for meeting me at the dockside in vm, even if you did forget to press record ;)


Nigel, just a thought, but would it be a good idea to post this in a new thread as it's the start to an epic cruise report you could just keep adding to? A link to this thread at the start would tie it up all nicely. It would be easier to find with a cruise report title too. Either way please keep posting your vids and reports, makes a great read/view. :encouragement::cool:
 
Really enjoyed that - thanks for posting.

We are still looking for our next boat and something with a sail is a strong possibility as we are thinking of packing up work and cruising so large fuel bills aren’t really an option. Your video has gone some way to convincing me that we are on the right track :)
 
Nigel, just a thought, but would it be a good idea to post this in a new thread as it's the start to an epic cruise report you could just keep adding to? A link to this thread at the start would tie it up all nicely. It would be easier to find with a cruise report title too. Either way please keep posting your vids and reports, makes a great read/view. :encouragement::cool:

When the mast comes down in Miami, I’ll start a Great Loop thread, how’s that sound :)
Thanks for the kind words....
 
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