mercman
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Help needed about to plunge £70k of hard earned into boat in love with monterey 265 need others input or experiences
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new boat purchase
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KevB
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IMHO
The lure of a nice shinny new boat is difficult to ignore but may well be worth looking at some nearly new models in your price range for comparison.
You will get a lot more boat for your money spending it on a second hand boat.
You might be lucky and find one which has all the extra goodies already installed.
GPS, radio, life jackets, flares, radar maybe, all cost an arm and a leg and not normally included on a new boat.
Where do you intend to keep the boat?
how many of you will regularly stay overnight on it?
What is your expectations as to where you will travel on it?
The initial joy of having a new boat wears off after a while and the practicalities start to kick in - should you have bought a bigger older boat?
Does an open plan cabin suit your families needs?
Lots of questions which can initially be blinded by new shinny gel coat.
It's amazing how quickly you grow out of a boat.
Kevin
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The lure of a nice shinny new boat is difficult to ignore but may well be worth looking at some nearly new models in your price range for comparison.
You will get a lot more boat for your money spending it on a second hand boat.
You might be lucky and find one which has all the extra goodies already installed.
GPS, radio, life jackets, flares, radar maybe, all cost an arm and a leg and not normally included on a new boat.
Where do you intend to keep the boat?
how many of you will regularly stay overnight on it?
What is your expectations as to where you will travel on it?
The initial joy of having a new boat wears off after a while and the practicalities start to kick in - should you have bought a bigger older boat?
Does an open plan cabin suit your families needs?
Lots of questions which can initially be blinded by new shinny gel coat.
It's amazing how quickly you grow out of a boat.
Kevin
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Talbot
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<<It's amazing how quickly you grow out of a boat.>>
I bought my first boat in 1987 and still own it - but i did look long and hard at the various options on the market before deciding on this particular boat. One of my criteria was a strong owners association, and an ability to tap into that association for advice prior to purchase.
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I bought my first boat in 1987 and still own it - but i did look long and hard at the various options on the market before deciding on this particular boat. One of my criteria was a strong owners association, and an ability to tap into that association for advice prior to purchase.
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mercman
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Hey thanks be keeping on the south coast poss. Port Solent and be me the wifey and 2 kids the 265 fits our requirements and i already have the bits and pieces.i.e. gps , vhf etc. Just the thought of new boat and those warranties. Plus there are no second hand ones of this model around.
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Wiggo
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Be careful! If you really take to it, you'll want to spend a lot of time aboard, and you need to think very carefully about sleeping/catering arrangements for four on a boat that size. How old are the kids? Thought about something like an older Fairline Targa 33, perhaps? Loads more usable space, and a ready second hand market if/when you move on.
<hr width=100% size=1><A target="_blank" HREF=http://homepage.ntlworld.com/graham.wignall/boats/eulimene600x800.jpg>The old and the new</A>
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mercman
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Kids are 8+6 there is plenty of room on board and they have a good range of bigger craft to move on to. I dont like the fairlines,sealines,bavaria and sea rays they are all to common evey other boat is one of the above i want people to go ooh whats that and stand out from the crowd. I must admit i am sold on the boat just wanted some others views on the marque
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KevB
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From my own personal experience I think you'll find it a bit on the small side for 4, especially if staying on it for longer than a weekend.
For the kind of money you are spending IMHO I'd definitely go for something a little bigger with tri cabins for privacy.
I'm only guessing but I assume the boat you are looking at has a convertible bed at the front, this can be a big pain in the ar$e having to tidy it away every day.
My money would go on something like this <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.boats-for-sale.co.uk/boatdetailpopup.asp?btsrefno=2227090> Targa 33 </A>
Great tri cabin family boat with good sea keeping and easy to sell on.
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For the kind of money you are spending IMHO I'd definitely go for something a little bigger with tri cabins for privacy.
I'm only guessing but I assume the boat you are looking at has a convertible bed at the front, this can be a big pain in the ar$e having to tidy it away every day.
My money would go on something like this <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.boats-for-sale.co.uk/boatdetailpopup.asp?btsrefno=2227090> Targa 33 </A>
Great tri cabin family boat with good sea keeping and easy to sell on.
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Jim44
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I dont know the boat, but lets hope peoples view is 'ooh whats that' and not 'ooh why did you get that??'
Only posted becuase you had a go at the best boats.....Sealine
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Only posted becuase you had a go at the best boats.....Sealine
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mercman
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Pardon didnt mean to offend its like a car park with your Fords and Vauxhalls and then you spot a Ferrari in the middle it catches the eye.......Dont tell me you got a Mondeo or Vectra !!
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mercman
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Pardon didnt mean to offend its like a car park with your Fords and Vauxhalls and then you spot a Ferrari in the middle it catches the eye.......Dont tell me you got a Mondeo or Vectra !!
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mercman
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Pardon didnt mean to offend its like a car park with your Fords and Vauxhalls and then you spot a Ferrari in the middle it catches the eye.......Dont tell me you got a Mondeo or Vectra !!
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Wiggo
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Fair point, but we had kids of 6 and 8 on a Targa 29, and outgrew that in two years. The 'Oooh, what's that?' response may well be the last thing you want when you're trying to sell, though.
Can I suggest you try and blag a ride on some different boats before parting with wonga?
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Can I suggest you try and blag a ride on some different boats before parting with wonga?
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Wiggo
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I'm sure Fairline et al will be thrilled with the comparison ;-)
The Monterey is a nice, solid boat, but I think 'Ferarri' is pushing it, just a tad...
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The Monterey is a nice, solid boat, but I think 'Ferarri' is pushing it, just a tad...
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Nauti Fox
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Could it be that you've seen the horrendous bodges inflicted on used boats?
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mercman
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I already been on a Targa 29 with Kad32s being in the industry and knowing the engines these put me off straight away. Been on searay 280 but all with petrols or Kad32s, BMB 29 to much wood and didnt like the look. I liked the Sessa 30 but the price is more than i want to spend
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KevB
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I agree with Wiggo - Try and see past the shinny gel coat of a new boat and think about longer term. I almost gaurantee it wont be long before you wish you'd bought something a little bigger, and not necessarily new.
If you take to boating, size does make a difference.
FWIW we have a 35' boat with four of us (2 adults + 1 x 22 months and another 13 years) and we only just get away with it.
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If you take to boating, size does make a difference.
FWIW we have a 35' boat with four of us (2 adults + 1 x 22 months and another 13 years) and we only just get away with it.
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mercman
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Ferrari was pushing it just couldnt think of better example. Yes working on a lot of the boats in the trade you do see a few horror stories and stuff the owner cant see. What i have seen on the Monterey is a very well constructed boat albeit american and very good finish and fitted out to a high standard with an excellent engine in the yanmar 6lp
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KevB
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Mercman, did you look at the link to the targa 33? Looks a clean boat. And no, I have no interests what so ever in this boat!!
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Jim44
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Did not offend and no I have not got a Ford or Vauxhall, Range Rover to blend in. I would look at used boat too. Bought mine at the begining of last year traded up from a 26ft to a 44ft to avoid having to change again.
IMHO you alway lose money every time you swap, same as cars. It might not look as if you do, but you do.
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IMHO you alway lose money every time you swap, same as cars. It might not look as if you do, but you do.
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mercman
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I did thanks i did engine work on one of those a few years ago and if i remember it wasnt a bad boat. Ithink i need to do a bit more homework if not i may take the plunge tomorrow. Then you can all say i told you so when im moaning that i made the wrong choice 
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