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Never trust an anchor test
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charles_reed
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Well never is a terribly long time - but I'd heavily discount any test which didn't explain the methodology.
No information of whether it was an in-service test, what the substrate might have been, or if the tests were entirely mock-ups.
Interesting that none of the benchmark anchors, such as the CQR, Delta or Bruce were included, though there is reference to how effective the Bruce was in comparison to those anchors detailed.
The Wasi Claw (more widely and generically known as the Bugel) is, by all accounts of users, a perfectly adequate anchor and the Spade type extremely effective in soft sand and mud (I know having used the design for moorings in the Dyfi '90-'98).
So do we have to come to the conclusion that the experimenter(s) were incompetent at anchoring?
Thanks for drawing attention to the publication, perhaps one should consider their journalism somewhat apocryphal? Especially when they are contradicting so many manufacturers.
The only thing I would agree with is the comment about the unjustifiable premium paid for "patent branded" anchors.
No information of whether it was an in-service test, what the substrate might have been, or if the tests were entirely mock-ups.
Interesting that none of the benchmark anchors, such as the CQR, Delta or Bruce were included, though there is reference to how effective the Bruce was in comparison to those anchors detailed.
The Wasi Claw (more widely and generically known as the Bugel) is, by all accounts of users, a perfectly adequate anchor and the Spade type extremely effective in soft sand and mud (I know having used the design for moorings in the Dyfi '90-'98).
So do we have to come to the conclusion that the experimenter(s) were incompetent at anchoring?
Thanks for drawing attention to the publication, perhaps one should consider their journalism somewhat apocryphal? Especially when they are contradicting so many manufacturers.
The only thing I would agree with is the comment about the unjustifiable premium paid for "patent branded" anchors.
wotayottie
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OK - how do I expand the copied text without cutting and pasting to a photo edit program? Cant read it as it is - can you? If you can you must be about 15. ;-)
simonfraser
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bottom right in IE7 is a magnifier glass use it to make the text bigger !
wotayottie
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use Firefox - at long last something thats better in IE! Firefox expands your text but not the pasted text.
curve
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bottom right in IE7 is a magnifier glass use it to make the text bigger !
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Well, I never. I always wondered what that 100% was for but never ever clicked on it. Thanks for the tip. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
bottom right in IE7 is a magnifier glass use it to make the text bigger !
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Well, I never. I always wondered what that 100% was for but never ever clicked on it. Thanks for the tip. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
simonfraser
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problem is the graphics are so poor in the image you still can't read it /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
30boat
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Actually they also tested a few other models.I didn't include them because that would make a really long post.The Barnacle, Britany, Delta,Fob Light and Fob HP.
I can post the missing pages if there's enough interest.
As to the graphics quality it came out quite readeable on my screen.
I can post the missing pages if there's enough interest.
As to the graphics quality it came out quite readeable on my screen.
achwilan
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The magazine is "Sailing today", not "Anchoring today";
May be they got out of their depth?... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
May be they got out of their depth?... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
eidiohir
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Me too
Where do we go from here?I mean how do I get to read it?I don't know how to enlarge it.
Where do we go from here?I mean how do I get to read it?I don't know how to enlarge it.
curve
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Basically it just says that everyone should have a delta.
doug748
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Another day, another anchor test, another conclusion. S'pose it sells anchors.
webcraft
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<span style="color:white"> . </span> Interestingly, I have once had our Spade come up with a big round ball of mud on it - and I guess it wouldn't have reset in those circumstances. Whether this is common and whether it ever happens with other anchor designs I don't know.
I think we can safely conclude however that these test results are not typical.
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I think we can safely conclude however that these test results are not typical.
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jon
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Test published end 2003, some anchors have been modified, the Sword Oceane is now the Sword and has been modified to improve penetration.
blackbeard
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Evidently there are inconsistencies in the results, which is probably true of most other anchor tests. In particular there seem to be different results from two Britany anchors which differ only slightly in weight. There are also, of course, radical differences from the anchor test in Dec 06 YM.
As pointed out above, without a detailed description of method, sea bed etc the results don't really mean a lot.
If we get enough of these tests, each with method and sea bed type clearly described, and add the personal views and experience of forum members, some sort of pattern may emerge.
So the heading might be, Never trust a single anchor test, but get all the information you can before making your mind up.
I do so love anchor threads.
As pointed out above, without a detailed description of method, sea bed etc the results don't really mean a lot.
If we get enough of these tests, each with method and sea bed type clearly described, and add the personal views and experience of forum members, some sort of pattern may emerge.
So the heading might be, Never trust a single anchor test, but get all the information you can before making your mind up.
I do so love anchor threads.
Poignard
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I have a big CQR and a long chain. On the basis that if it was good enough for someone as experienced, and successful, as Eric Hiscock, it's good enough for me.
charles_reed
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Delta
is quite a good anchor, but rubbish in shingle.
I've one as the kedge.
is quite a good anchor, but rubbish in shingle.
I've one as the kedge.
Chris_Robb
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Re: Delta
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is quite a good anchor, but rubbish in shingle.
I've one as the kedge.
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Is anything any good in shingle?
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is quite a good anchor, but rubbish in shingle.
I've one as the kedge.
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Is anything any good in shingle?
Davy_S
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Re: Delta
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Is anything any good in shingle?
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I have heard that if your Rocna does not set in shingle, Craig will send a helicopter out, he will reset the anchor whilst a nubile young lady will give you a blow -job!
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Is anything any good in shingle?
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I have heard that if your Rocna does not set in shingle, Craig will send a helicopter out, he will reset the anchor whilst a nubile young lady will give you a blow -job!
Chris_Robb
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Re: Delta
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Is anything any good in shingle?
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I have heard that if your Rocna does not set in shingle, Craig will send a helicopter out, he will reset the anchor whilst a nubile young lady will give you a blow -job!
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Do I still get a blow job if I have a Manson??? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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Is anything any good in shingle?
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I have heard that if your Rocna does not set in shingle, Craig will send a helicopter out, he will reset the anchor whilst a nubile young lady will give you a blow -job!
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Do I still get a blow job if I have a Manson??? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif