AngusMcDoon
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I would assume they are linked via Seatalk ..... ?? If so - we are on a winner !!
Not according to the current Raymarine specification for the i60. Older models may be different.
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I would assume they are linked via Seatalk ..... ?? If so - we are on a winner !!
Not everyone considers NMEA2000 the 'bees knees' ....
Neither do I. The fact that it is a closed standard held by a nasty litigious organisation is 1970's dinosaur thinking. It's also far too slow for modern electronics and other proprietary faster ethernet based network standards are needed, like Raynet.
Not according to the current Raymarine specification for the i60. Older models may be different.
From what he says he has an i60 log and wind which are connected to each other and nothing else. From Raymarine's current spec here...
i60 Instrument Displays | Raymarine
they have 2 SeatalkNG connections and nothing else. Maybe he has older ones which do have Seatalk, but the OP can confirm that. Does the KP-708A connect to NMEA2000?
Interesting as the search online earlier gave 0183 etc. for the i60 .... now searching comes up as you say ST NG ..... If I find the link again - I'll post it just for interest.
I have gear with NMEA2000 and I ditched using it for very simple reason ... why would I want to have terminating resistors ?
i60 specs I have online are NMEA 0183 .... Seatalk 1 and 2 .... NMEA 2000 ....... all available on it.
I have gear with NMEA2000 and I ditched using it for very simple reason ... why would I want to have terminating resistors ??? Thought they went out with co-ax based networks !!
You ditched N2K because it had terminating resistors, seriously ?
NMEA 2000 may not be the perfect networking hardware by modern standards, but neither is wifi or wired ethernet.I have gear with NMEA2000 and I ditched using it for very simple reason ... why would I want to have terminating resistors ??? Thought they went out with co-ax based networks !!
For the i60s which are nmea 2000, the most user friendly solution is probobly the yacht devices one.Raymarine i60
That's a plus for data over wifi, with an android tablet/laptop/raspberry pi running opencpn you have probably as good an ais display as there is available. And cruising satellite images as charts can be gold dust, opencpn makes this easy as well.- better AIS features. The Onwa is very basic in this regard, the alarm function is basically useless because it doesn't tell you which vessel is on a close CPA, nor whether the pass will be ahead or behind.
Dredging up this again. Thanks for everybody's responses, and apologies for not actually acting on any of the information. I've been rather busy with other boat jobs etc.
I'll admit I'm struggling a bit to understand the basic principles of networking instruments. And I'm not entirely aware of what I've already got installed.
So, to the best of my knowledge, I have:
-Onwa KP-708A plotter/AIS, not connected to anything else, apparently is 0183 compatible.
Yes the Onwa is 0183 format to send out and receive in. As to data out - see my suggestion at end.
-Lowrance HDS5m plotter, not connected to anything, compatible with 0183 and 2000. I no longer have charting for this so it's just used for SOG/COG. Day to day navigation is with Navionics on phones.
Shame as the old Lowrance Mapsource Charting was actually good enough - I still have both Europe SD cards and use my 3500 plotter as my day boats system. I actually also created own charts for inland river sections. But anyway - being N2K - why not use the Lowrance as the display of your other N2K data .. wind .. speed ... depth ... etc. ? Basically turn it into your Multi Function Display ?
-Raymarine wind, speed/temp, depth, and autopilot instruments. I think these may be i50/60 and therefore possibly 2k only. But really not sure. At present the wind and speed are connected to each other, but that's all.
See Lowrance suggestion .....
My wishlist would include:
- better AIS features. The Onwa is very basic in this regard, the alarm function is basically useless because it doesn't tell you which vessel is on a close CPA, nor whether the pass will be ahead or behind.
Interesting ... my KP39A - not noticed that as I tend to determine by my observation of screen. But this can be improved possibly by the network unit I will suggest at end .... basically all data sent to your Phone or to an OpenCPN setup ...
- AIS at the helm would be nice. At present is displayed on the Onwa at the chart table.
Easily solved by the unit I will suggest
- Wind info at the chart table. On phone too would be nice.
Same solution as previous ...
My thoughts are that the obvious thing is to get all of the data on to wifi and just use phones, maybe a cheap tablet at the chart table for 'always on' wind info.
Correct. You can buy so-called Marine items at chandlery ..... be prepared to mortgage wallet. Or you can buy a unit designed BY A BOAT OWNER for his own use .... There is one limitation though - to keep costs down, N2K is not connectable to the unit. It requires a Licence fee to implement the N2K Firmware.
Nmea4Wifi - Introduction
This unit provides simple and easily setup integration of multiple 0183 data streams as well as Seatalk1. It outputs as 0183, WiFi and USB ... giving you options as to how you connect to remote displays. It also can re-transmit any WiFi detected in a marina or wherever you are - boosting its signal.
Of course there are other solutions - some with N2K included - but they don't cost about 50 quid ...
With the unit sending out Data via WiFi - you can have your Phones Navionics using the AIS data and GPS if you want. It can also feed an Tablet or small notebook computer for OpenCPN or other charting prog. that has AIS as well as plotting.
I really don't have a clue what I'm doing though!