My partner bough a boat he has no idea what it is and i cant find how i find out the make and model as theres no hin on the boat

Very many years ago a couple who had sailed with me a few times bought a similar boat. The lady insisted that I went out with them for their first sail as she was not sure about her husbands ability (though he was a very good crew member on my boat).
Later that summer she took an RYA practical course. From then on she was the skipper and they both enjoyed sailing their boat.
 
Is it definitely a Fantasie? From what is visible of the hull it looks like a round bilge .I thought the Fantasy had a hard chine hull?

Looks like a very practical boat that will be fun to sail.Good luck.
 
Don't give up,

We sailed and cruised a J24, a bit bigger than your 19 (but you have to start somewhere). We loved it and have never looked back though as we grew older we increasingly demanded more comfort. The J24 was used by North Sails as the foundation for one of their educational videos, real vid, tape in a plastic cartridge, and was much of the background to our knowledge of sail handling. Handling the yacht was by trial and error - and there was not much room for error as we then lived in HK.

We managed without the formal lessons advocated here by some and went on to be CHS champions 2 years in a row in HK, in our X99 (we still have the glassware), and participated in a number of RORC Blue Water classics and now sail/cruise a cat (in Oz).

Jonathan
 
From caz’s initial post where she says she’s very disgruntled, we’ve all made the assumption she’ll actually step onboard and participate in this sailing lark. Might I humbly suggest that the bf needs to ensure the first experiences are as stress free and enjoyable as possible.

I have a theory that sailing in the UK has JUST enough nice days to keep us coming back to the boat and no more. Choose a bad day with poor weather, things not going to plan and tempers getting short and there’s yet another couple who never sail together.

IMHO a short trip with a stop somewhere nice and a glass of something cool or a nice coffee sitting in the cockpit is what’s required. If you’re somewhere like Portsmouth harbour or Plymouth or Chichester or any one of a dozen other places, you don’t need to leave the harbour.
 
Ask around at a local club, quite likely somebody will like a sail and give some tips.

Drifting a bit..... Woman we know put a post on a social site for someone to come 'boating' with her for company and safety on the river Charente. The site banned her outright, apparently 'boating' has another meaning..... She had no idea and was quite offended...

BTW, welcome caz.
You don't say if your bloke has any experience?
 
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As others have said, Fantasy 19. Holl number if I recall is inside the back locker somewhere where the boarding ladder is.

I had one many years ago, single beds like it or not. If you don’t like it using your imagination can be much more fun.

Go on tell us why the disgruntled girl friend?

Did he spend your savings for the new kitchen on it? Was his response you got a new kitchen it’s called a galley?

Get involved and enjoy (just trim your nails before going sailing).
 
And people wonder why there are so few women on these forums.

It's honesty, have you ever tried sleeping or anything else on a Fantasy 19. That content was meant to have a hint of humour.

If your going to be enjoy sailing IMHO you need to be hands on.

Long nails are easily broken, hurt when they brake and mean other nails need trimming to match. Timmed nails are less likely to break.

As for the money, most dip into savings to buy the first boat and for me it was the kitchen.
 
It's honesty, have you ever tried sleeping or anything else on a Fantasy 19. That content was meant to have a hint of humour.

If your going to be enjoy sailing IMHO you need to be hands on.

Long nails are easily broken, hurt when they brake and mean other nails need trimming to match. Timmed nails are less likely to break.

As for the money, most dip into savings to buy the first boat and for me it was the kitchen.
What on earth makes you think she has long nails ? Or needs tips on trimming them ?

Maybe she did have other ideas for spending their money (or more likely, time) but it is possible a kitchen was not top of her list...

She's bothered to try to find out about the boat so must be at least a bit interested. Perhaps she's just the sort of person who would have researched it before she bought it.
 
It's honesty, have you ever tried sleeping or anything else on a Fantasy 19. That content was meant to have a hint of humour.

If your going to be enjoy sailing IMHO you need to be hands on.

Long nails are easily broken, hurt when they brake and mean other nails need trimming to match. Timmed nails are less likely to break.

As for the money, most dip into savings to buy the first boat and for me it was the kitchen.
Stop digging. It’s the sexist assumptions that you’re making that Sandy was pointing out that are very inappropriate and would put many women off joining in discussions on these forums.
 
Stop digging. It’s the sexist assumptions that you’re making that Sandy was pointing out that are very inappropriate and would put many women off joining in discussions on these forums.
Yes, I didn't even quote the bit about the 'sleeping' arrangements.

The op seemed to me to be frustrated that her partner had bought a boat neither he nor the seller knew anything about. If she had no interest she wouldn't have bothered with photos and enquiries.

It seems from all the encouraging replies that he might have got a good one. I hope they have a lot of fun with it.
 
You've got your own little boat to practice on I'm sure you don't need to spend the same sort of amount as you paid for the boat to go onto a more complicated boat twice the size to learn on that first. Twice the length boats are more like 4x the size and much more daunting to handle and very different to sail. (John and a few others here are RYA instructors so will disagree as will everyone who spent the money for their certificates.)

Certainly worth getting someone for a day on your own boat, can probably find someone retired who will do it for free though, look out for the old guys pottering around their boats in the marina. Reading a book or 2 is I'm sure much quicker and more efficient that trying to learn via youtube. And then as he says start with very small trips and build up gradually. You don't even need to put the sails up the first few times you go out. Most of what you need to know has nothing to do with the means of propulsion.

Agree.

RYA courses are good ... but too often a person looking to learn basics to look after their modest boat - ie as here - they get lumped in with a group on a larger boat and only get short stints of action. due to the need to get all on board a slice of action.

Join a club ... be honest with club ... no doubt there will be members more than willing to go out for short / day sail to give assistance. Yes you may learn some bad habits ... but who doesn't even after RYA courses ?
 
I grew up with a Father who had a series of boats .... then I bought my first : Alacrity 19 ..... literally a dinghy with a lid on.

Boy did I have fun with that boat ... even today I look back with very fond memories.

Like most people - the wish for more headroom / cabin space took over ... next was Snapdragon 23 ... again very fond memories.

Then I saw the Sunrider25 ... heavy but full headroom ... decent cabin arrangements ... decent sized cockpit ... still have that boat today - see repair thread running on it.

But still I wanted more ! So out with hard earned and now proud owner of the Conq 38.

As they say - a slippery slope !! But what memories !!

My first Wife (UK) was never a boaty person ... we had some bad weather events and she was not keen to repeat ... BUT even she today still recalls good times on them.

Example : Club BBQ Priory Bay IoW ..... a nice sail across Solent ... anchor up ... paddle ashore .... BBQ ... back to boat ... back to mooring.
 
We live in different times and women have more freedom to express their opinion……..sounds like the hero ought to have consulted with the disgruntled one it now up to him to show he made a good decision but as previously mentioned don’t start behaving like captainAhab and throwing commands about…
 
Long fingernails

A 19' yacht is easily capable of being sailed and handled by one person, with or without long finger nails. We have a 38' cat and my wife has, her own, long fingernails and long hair.

Join the 21st century.

I can understand that the GF is disgruntled - part of the decision making process should have included her (as its the 21st Century). However she joined the forum - and I hope she is not in any way discouraged by some of the comments, which indicates to me that maybe she might still be part of the team.

To the GF - hang in there (and here)

Jonathan
 
I can understand that the GF is disgruntled - part of the decision making process should have included her (as its the 21st Century).
Unless she's one of the many unreasonable women who have a irrational problem with the man in their life having things they like to do without them either because the woman doesn't like that thing or the man specifically wants to do something separate for a change. I've had many friends over the years with partners like that, they'd usually invent some reason for an argument before he leaves the house to spoil it for him, and it always ended in a breakup as the man (even the meek seeming ones) gradually resent her until it implodes. The problem seems to stem from the man not being assertive enough for his needs at the beginning of the relationship. From the one post to go on I wouldn't be surprised if thats the case.
 
Heavy Weather Sailing……Adlard Coles
That was unkind.

All the OP needs to no about heavy weather sailing is
1. Don't. Unforecast storms are pretty rare, so there's really no need to.
2. When it does get bumpy, that little boat will look after you long after you're wishing you'd stayed home - and, if it does get really bad, long after you're wishing the damned thing would sink and put you out of your misery.
 
That was unkind.

All the OP needs to no about heavy weather sailing is
1. Don't. Unforecast storms are pretty rare, so there's really no need to.
2. When it does get bumpy, that little boat will look after you long after you're wishing you'd stayed home - and, if it does get really bad, long after you're wishing the damned thing would sink and put you out of your misery.
I thought I was being helpful,once out at sea and it gets choppy it’s a handy pictorial reference to wether your in a Force 8 or storm force 9……or useful for propping a door open🙂
 
Unless she's one of the many unreasonable women who have a irrational problem with the man in their life having things they like to do without them either because the woman doesn't like that thing or the man specifically wants to do something separate for a change. I've had many friends over the years with partners like that, they'd usually invent some reason for an argument before he leaves the house to spoil it for him, and it always ended in a breakup as the man (even the meek seeming ones) gradually resent her until it implodes. The problem seems to stem from the man not being assertive enough for his needs at the beginning of the relationship. From the one post to go on I wouldn't be surprised if thats the case.
I think you are making suggestions as to the character of the young lady most and unnecessarily unfairly.

It was the young lady who joined YBW, not the new owner of the yacht. She seems to show some support for her BF who appears to have lacked the gumption to join the forum before he invested his (and her?) funds.

I see no need for character assassination of individuals of whom we know little - except we know that she is 'one of us'.

I might suggest, based only on your post, you have some odd friends.

Jonathan
 
I think you are making suggestions as to the character of the young lady most and unnecessarily unfairly.

It was the young lady who joined YBW, not the new owner of the yacht. She seems to show some support for her BF who appears to have lacked the gumption to join the forum before he invested his (and her?) funds.

I see no need for character assassination of individuals of whom we know little - except we know that she is 'one of us'.
You made assumptions and accusations against the boyfriend when you said this

I can understand that the GF is disgruntled - part of the decision making process should have included her (as its the 21st Century).

But that's OK presumably because you're on the females side attacking the male? How very 21st century of you.

And how about this for a wild and weird assumption
except we know that she is 'one of us'.
or this
She seems to show some support for her BF who appears to have lacked the gumption to join the forum before he invested his (and her?) funds.
For all we know she's already forced him to sell the boat she clearly didn't agree with him buying. She only joined to ask one question and clearly has no interest in talking to other sailing people. There is always mumsnet if she wants sympathy but this is a sailing forum so I'm on the side of the guy you has a dream to go sailing and wants to follow it despite her. You're not helping the wannabe sailor by throwing him under a bus to be a virtue signaling male feminist.
 
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