My partner bough a boat he has no idea what it is and i cant find how i find out the make and model as theres no hin on the boat

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There is an ssi number on the boat and the date 1985 on the mast but no other information is available and the person he bought it off hasnt a clue either - thanks for any help possible- a very disgruntled girlfriend
 

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I am reasonably confident it is a Four 21. EDIT - no, I was wrong, and now think Minerva has it right - a Fantasie

There are quite a few about as they were popular in their day. You'll find a more info (including threads on this forum if you do a Google search for 'Four 21 Yacht'
 
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If it's any consolation, or warning....my friend once arrived into the pub and announced to me that he had bought a boat, when I enquired what type he said " a blue sailing kind of thing" sailing his vivacity 20 with him gave me the bug and for the last 20 years I have been trying to fill my own hole in the water with money...
 
I think there is a potential for for caz to love this little boat. It is not such a big deal to not know the maker of a boat. However it seems to have been identified anyway. Just approach with enthusiasm and rmemeber saailing is all about crisis management especially in the early days. I hope you both enjoy it. ol'will
 
There is an ssi number on the boat and the date 1985 on the mast but no other information is available and the person he bought it off hasnt a clue either - thanks for any help possible- a very disgruntled girlfriend
Welcome to the forum. Where are you(him) going to keep the boat and sail it?

Some rules for learning to sail and manage a small boat.

1. Things will go wrong.
2. It’s ALWAYS the skippers fault.
3. Skippers should try very hard to NEVER raise their voices.
4. Even simple manoeuvres on a boat need to be planned.
5. See 1.

Hire an instructor for a day? (It’ll make a HUGE difference.

Both of you go on some RYA courses.

Read some books and don’t believe all you see on YouTube is the best way to do things.

Think VERY small trips to start with.
 
Hire an instructor for a day? (It’ll make a HUGE difference.

Both of you go on some RYA courses.

Read some books and don’t believe all you see on YouTube is the best way to do things.

Think VERY small trips to start with.
You've got your own little boat to practice on I'm sure you don't need to spend the same sort of amount as you paid for the boat to go onto a more complicated boat twice the size to learn on that first. Twice the length boats are more like 4x the size and much more daunting to handle and very different to sail. (John and a few others here are RYA instructors so will disagree as will everyone who spent the money for their certificates.)

Certainly worth getting someone for a day on your own boat, can probably find someone retired who will do it for free though, look out for the old guys pottering around their boats in the marina. Reading a book or 2 is I'm sure much quicker and more efficient that trying to learn via youtube. And then as he says start with very small trips and build up gradually. You don't even need to put the sails up the first few times you go out. Most of what you need to know has nothing to do with the means of propulsion.
 
You've got your own little boat to practice on I'm sure you don't need to spend the same sort of amount as you paid for the boat to go onto a more complicated boat twice the size to learn on that first. Twice the length boats are more like 4x the size and much more daunting to handle and very different to sail. (John and a few others here are RYA instructors so will disagree as will everyone who spent the money for their certificates.)

Certainly worth getting someone for a day on your own boat, can probably find someone retired who will do it for free though, look out for the old guys pottering around their boats in the marina. Reading a book or 2 is I'm sure much quicker and more efficient that trying to learn via youtube. And then as he says start with very small trips and build up gradually. You don't even need to put the sails up the first few times you go out. Most of what you need to know has nothing to do with the means of propulsion.
I’ve no skin in the game of selling courses. I only teach occasionally nowadays.

The only reason I said both was that if only one goes they come back full of confidence and it can potentially lead to more discord.

Best is some free own boat tuition. Pay if you must.

Small boat sailing is mostly about managing the boat and planning ahead.
 
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