My new project... MFV Elizmor

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NealB said:
Here's a very wild guess, based on no knowledge of either these engines, nor old fishing boats:

Preston to Brighton (direct...no detours for weather, problems or fun) is about 600 miles.

Is 8 knots sensible? Is 5.5 gph sensible? Is £1.40 per litre sensible?

If so, I make it 75 hours running time, therefore 412.5 gallons, which 1875 litres, which costs about £2625 ish.

Roughly!!!
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How much would it cost in comparison to put it on a lorry and take it south?

In the sense that it cost peanuts in relation to a small flat and that it would be fairly low rent when moored up it probably still makes

good sense for Ellie to keep going
 
NealB said:
In 1996, whilst gale bound in Milford Haven in our old wooden gaff cutter, we lay alongside the beautiful steamship 'Carolla'.
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Currently on the hard for a major restoration at the Scottish Maritime Museum and looking very nice on the outside, though I don;t have any idea how much has yet to be done inside her.
 
lw395 said:
You could do it on a lowloader for that?
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I did wonder, because a boat transport run over that distance by road normally seems to come in at £1000 + craneage. However, I guess that Elizmor would be pushing it a bit for going on a standard low-loader, and I shudder to think what a specialised heavy lifting outfit would charge. Anyway, it wouldn't be nearly as much fun.
 
fisherman said:
Only engine that the SFIA would allow to be fitted as a recon. My mate's 150hp has been the equivalent of round the world three times in a routemaster.
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My only experience with them was having 'converted' ( and it was , hands up, a really bad cheap conversion that I did at age 20 for a bodgit owner) on a ex Scotish Fifer that had started as a lug rigged sailing boat around 1900.

The Gardner6 ( ?L or XL? of unknown vintage) was mounted WAY forward in the boat. With a long prop shaft under the hold and crews quarters, past all the shingl ballast, a dry exhaust up thru the deck , and you walked past the engine to reach the loo in the eyes of the boat..

And that engine sipped fuel, and ran sweet as a sweetest thing, effortless smooth, not particularly noisy.

We had a lot of fun going into marinas still with an aroma and odd fishboxes piled up on the deck.
I am gonna guess that at 10l an hour Ellie and crew will be on the South Coast looking for -usefully-under a grands worth of fuel. Perhaps even less if they are patient and anchor, play the tides and wind too..
 
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The Kowloon bus company in Hong Kong used the 6LX engines in their buses. In fact the same engine served in two bus bodies as they lasted so long (and buses in Hong Kong didn't exactly get thrown away when the ash trays were full!). I think the service life of two consecutive bodies was in excess of 30 years and all stop/start driving. The same engines then went off to serve long careers in the local fishing junks.

The generators on the ferries also had Gardner engines and ran under load continuously night and day. After 100,000 hours without stopping, the Gardner agent took them apart to find no discernible wear and put them back together again for another 11 years.

It's a pity you need a huge boat to enjoy owning one. I worked on one boat with an 8LX and used to walk happily along the rocker covers when it was running, something I've not been able to do with the Yanmar 3GM30.
 
Blueboatman said:
No detail on Stus page that I could see. As a seasoned local politico I am sure he is absolutely aware of the nuances of using inflammatory language .Eh boyo? ( that is an unwelcome, unhelpful and unnecesary example btw), with a bit of stereotypicalusation, as 'wanna buy an Eber off a van mate?' ( Another one) Stu used by aligning one hapless pair of tired old MFVs to the OPs rather different, surveyed, paid up, beautifully converted, worked on, example, with qualified skipper to boot!
Whilst I am in admiration of Stus community efforts in local politics, I too wonder at the personal nature of his post-is there something we don't know Stuart? I shink we shud be told!

And moving on , a nice link to Gardner engines, some thermal efficiency and long legged rugged frugality I believe. But read it fer yerselves guys!
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/facts-and-figures/essays/best-of-british-gardner-6lx-diesel-engine/

And finally, a thought: of those who so casually post unpleasantness here on this very thread, how many of your wives are aware of it I wonder ? We have had very few ( any) women posters POVs afaik..? Anyone
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Uh? Oh I see, its 01.08!
Stu
 
Never mind the hares , save them for the pot. 0955 where I am. Now, my question, why the three successive vitriolic posts that brought nowt to the table Stuart?

( and where do you get 01.08 from, we're not in BST quite yet)
 
Blueboatman said:
I am gonna guess that at 10l an hour Ellie and crew will be in Brighton for under a grands worth of fuel. Perhaps even less if they are patient and anchor, play the tides and wind too..
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Interesting!

As I said last night, I have no experience of Gardners or fishing boats, so 'my' 5.5 gph @ 8 knots is from a fishing boat site somewhere (and ties in pretty well with fisherman's rule of thumb: 1 gph for each 20 hp, and 100 hp).

So I guess, to get 10 L an hour, you'd be going much slower?

Say 5 knots (plucked out the air!)?

So 600 miles direct, then takes 120 hours, 1200 litres, say £1700.

Detours could add considerably to the distance.
 
Why doesn't she just get the marina's own travel hoist to lift it up and put it on an HGV? No crane, no site survey, truck it round to a cheaper lift in place. All this fuss would be over.
 
Lazy Kipper said:
Why doesn't she just get the marina's own travel hoist to lift it up and put it on an HGV? No crane, no site survey, truck it round to a cheaper lift in place. All this fuss would be over.
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And then get it craned off at the other end ? How much is that going to cost?? The cost of the launch is the whole issue .
 
Lazy Kipper said:
Why doesn't she just get the marina's own travel hoist to lift it up and put it on an HGV? No crane, no site survey, truck it round to a cheaper lift in place. All this fuss would be over.
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From Preston Marinas website.

"Lift rates apply to vessels not exceeding 12.2m x 4.0m x 12.5 tons (any one feature)" Maybe they cannot handle bigger boats with their lift.
 
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