dylanwinter
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£20,000 is more than enough for two luxury yachts
it just depends on your definition of luxury
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My new project... MFV Elizmor
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£20,000 is more than enough for two luxury yachts
it just depends on your definition of luxury
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JumbleDuck
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A suitably large donation to a firm of ground surveyors would have solved this weeks ago.
Sandyman
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Ive not commented on this thread, apart from a post at the start to wish Ellie well, because I know her.
Getting tired of looking in on this thread hoping to see real news so could someone please post a new thread
or give a heads-up when there is. Tks
Getting tired of looking in on this thread hoping to see real news so could someone please post a new thread
or give a heads-up when there is. Tks
JumbleDuck
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It would be nice if someone could set up a webcam pointing at Elizmor, so we could all follow developments. Unfortunately the Preston Docks webcam is (a) pointing in the wrong direction and (b) defunct. I've just checked Marine Traffic and there is no sign of her (or indeed anything else, so maybe no coverage) in Preston Marina.
dylanwinter
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I promise not to lie low on any KTL related threads
- unless I am actually sailing and for some reason unable to get on the web
Up until now I have used my orange dongle to keep me in touch.
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Graham_Wright
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Not unless an army Chinook carrying and officer to a function just happens to be passing by. Hover, put boat in slings, lift, fly sideways....plop. The officer can then be delivered to the function. No extra cost to anyone, it's a win win situation. Or.....the Chinook could drop off a low loader. :encouragement:
You would need 4 of them!
Twister_Ken
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An orange dongle? I think you'll find penicillin will cure that.
Lakesailor
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Something we are not aware of?
Apologies to anyone who has already said this.
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Capt Popeye
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:encouragement:
Well, just perhaps a visit to a Museum might throw some light on the answer to move a boat as large as this one?
If Stonehenge was built before Cranes were invented there might be a more basic method of 'getting her to the water on time', so as to speak?
From pics it looks as if (if recall ok?) the boat is actually off the hard /ground, so perhaps rollers might move her to a 'better place' or the slipway?
Ah well, perhaps this 'saga' thread might just be 'renamed' ? no suggestions given but many thought of
Well, just perhaps a visit to a Museum might throw some light on the answer to move a boat as large as this one?
If Stonehenge was built before Cranes were invented there might be a more basic method of 'getting her to the water on time', so as to speak?
From pics it looks as if (if recall ok?) the boat is actually off the hard /ground, so perhaps rollers might move her to a 'better place' or the slipway?
Ah well, perhaps this 'saga' thread might just be 'renamed' ? no suggestions given but many thought of
alahol2
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The part that may help JE is... "Emergency crews secured nearby boats and set up inflatable booms to enable the crane to float on the high tide overnight."
If a couple of inflatable booms is all it needs to float a crane then the oft quoted floating crane option could become a reality.
Lakesailor
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Just need a crane driver with a death wish and all is sorted
Lakesailor
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It's not far from where the transformer lift was made so there must be a recent survey of that bit of quay.
The question is, would moving her on rollers to that spot be less expensive (and no more risky) than simply getting a ground survey where she is?
JumbleDuck
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Rollers? Why not put her on a low loader and (cont p97)
Seriously, though, I suspect that moving a 35 tonne boat around on rollers would be a non trivial matter, and at the very least you'd need a cradle which would cost less than Ground Surveys 'R' Us are ready and waiting to charge.
Blueboatman
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You have moved boats around by hand then? Funnily enough I have but not for a long while..Amazing what can be done when you decide to do it rather than post endless objections..
These boats were able to take the ground on their bilge, the only tricky bit would be listing her down.. might need a crane thinghy
However. ...Seriously, the days of hands on boatyards are long gone, its all done by crane so no more tractors, ex RAF bomb trolleys, snatch cables and corner blocks set up around the yard, no piles of greasy boards for skidding nor timber for knocking up a cradle nor blocks and tackles to support a boat from the chainplates ( etc etc)
But, in theory perfectly do-able with patience and a blind eye to ( here we go again) the safety risk assessment angle, 'sue them' option and fear, blame culture and qulaity paper trail to pad and cover a plethora of bottoms
These boats were able to take the ground on their bilge, the only tricky bit would be listing her down.. might need a crane thinghy
However. ...Seriously, the days of hands on boatyards are long gone, its all done by crane so no more tractors, ex RAF bomb trolleys, snatch cables and corner blocks set up around the yard, no piles of greasy boards for skidding nor timber for knocking up a cradle nor blocks and tackles to support a boat from the chainplates ( etc etc)
But, in theory perfectly do-able with patience and a blind eye to ( here we go again) the safety risk assessment angle, 'sue them' option and fear, blame culture and qulaity paper trail to pad and cover a plethora of bottoms
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maby
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But, as she's already observed, the quoted price was close to what she paid for the boat!
alahol2
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Twister_Ken
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:encouragement:
Well, just perhaps a visit to a Museum might throw some light on the answer to move a boat as large as this one?
If Stonehenge was built before Cranes were invented there might be a more basic method of 'getting her to the water on time', so as to speak?
From pics it looks as if (if recall ok?) the boat is actually off the hard /ground, so perhaps rollers might move her to a 'better place' or the slipway?
Ah well, perhaps this 'saga' thread might just be 'renamed' ? no suggestions given but many thought of
I remember when the wreck of the Hairy Nose was being lifted from the seabed and onto a barge, before being towed into Pompey, and it all when a bit titzup when they were trying to position the lifting cradle on the barge, a learned TV commentator showed his frustration by saying something like "Give me a dozen squaddies and a sergeant, and I'd have that thing lined up in no time"
Blueboatman
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Didn't something break in the cradle/strop set up when the RosyNosey came up?
Blueboatman
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Thing is , re publicity chasing and all, if you're going to do something a tad iffy, like a moonlight boat lift on the QT( say), bestest just to do it. Quickly and quietly. Now we are terminally into 'dotting and crossing and signatories' time..
Reckon this thread will top 100,000 reads by March though.. perhaps that is what counts in this new, virtual world after all?
Reckon this thread will top 100,000 reads by March though.. perhaps that is what counts in this new, virtual world after all?
JumbleDuck
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Yeah. That was my point, really. They almost certainly won't have the kit and we no longer live in a world where bodged improvistions for moving 34 tonne boats are no longer acceptable.
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