My new boat

[GeorgeP]

Well, I've just agreed to buy a new boat. It's a Jeanneau Sunshine. so a lightweight AWB. However, it has all the accomodation the family need so they'll be happy - in some ways we need a floating caravan.

But the hull speed is nearly 10 knots (so long as I can hang on)!

Hopefully it will be a good day on Monday, when I do the sea trial. And also the second weekend in November, when I hope to bring her home to Poole.

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[Rowana]

Good luck! I hope it all goes well for you and yours.

Let us know how you all get on.

Jim (boatless but still looking and hoping ernie will be kind with funds!)

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[Robin]

Congratulations, if this is the Jeanneau Sunshine 36 or 38 (Tony Castro design?) it has had good write-ups in the secondhand tests in the last couple of years. I think the hull speed you mentioned is perhaps a wave induced surf speed though otherwise 1.34 x Squ root of waterline length in feet will give the figure normally. I don't think Tony Castro designed a slow boat though, despite the very nice cruising interior - this caravan GOES!

We have a Doug Peterson designed Jeanneau Sun Legende 41 from 1988 so a similar vintage and I think the interiors were similar, much nicer than the more modern ones too in my opinion with a more traditional layout. (by the by we hit 16.7kts in ours on one surf off Poole Bar Buoy!).

This lot can call them AWBs if they like, but we can have the last laugh as we go past them, upwind or down, F2 or F8 and with wall to wall grins - yeehaaaah!

Where are you based in Poole? We are at Parkstone YC - Heartbeat.



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[Sybarite]

Congratulations. I have chartered them in the past and they sail beautifully.

You may however have to sacrifice a few of the 10 berths for additional stowage space!

John

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[goupil]

Sun Shine : A Wonderful Boat, definitely not a floating-caravan !
This Tony Castro design is one of the best racer-cruisers of the eighties.
I delivered one in Portugal, a delight to steer, you'll have a lot of fun with her.


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[Robin]

Yes true. Our SL41 has been modified and set up basically for 2 plus a separate double guest cabin giving space and pace. One of the two original double aft cabins is now all stowage, known as 'the shed' and both pilot berths are now lockers and bookshelves**. That said there was already plenty of stowage built for a more normal size crew in AND we have 3 large cockpit lockers as well. Unlike some, including some so-called 'quality' boats of recent years, we do not need to keep a fender farm on the stern.

**This was done a few years back for the previous owners by Cobb's Quay Shipwrights in Poole, absolutely superb job, highly recommended.

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[webcraft]

George,

You will have a blast . . .

I've sailed a SunShine 38 and had as much fun as you can with your clothes on . . . sitting out on the perfectly angled cockpit coaming close hauled at 7 knots plus, steering with the tiller extension - perfect neutral handling, just like a big dinghy.

And . . . it's the only boat I'v skippered where a female crew member has pole danced for me in the saloon.

Enjoy . . .

- Nick



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[GeorgeP]

This is the 38 Tony Castro design. Do you know where the write-ups were? BTW the formula I used was different from yours, and showed a required 50hp to drive the boat at this speed. I can PM the formula if you like. I don't know enough to say whether it is right or not though. Either way, it should shift. And with a 2m fin keel, it should go to windward OK!

I'm based at Poole Yacht Club. Assuming the survey and sea trial are all OK, you should see her there from mid November. The name's Wendy Lou, which my tribe aren't too keen on so it may change.

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[billmacfarlane]

Caravan ? If she sails like the other Jeanneaus from the same period, she'll be anything but a caravan. Good luck with the test sail and hopefully for years of pleasure with her.

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[Robin]

Hi George

One of the test reports was in Sailing Today I think and the other YM and both do a copy service though I cannot find anything in YMs on line database.

The hull speed formula is pretty standard, try the site below and it will work it out for you as well as some other figures. Remember the waterline length on the Sunshine will be a bit longer than the 'at rest' designer figure as the stern is just out of the water then, immersing almost as soon as the boat is moving.

http://www.sailingusa.info/design_winds.htm

Jeanneau Owners website is:-

http://jeanneau.tripod.com/

Have a good seatrial & delivery!

Robin


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[GeorgeP]

Jeanneau Sunshine reports

Thanks for the websites - the safety one was particularly interesting.

I'll try to find the report details when I get back home on Saturday.

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[Mr Cassandra]

Blinking Hell 16.7kts I have had 13.9 out of my Sun Magic 44 and I though that was fast ! I have a good friend with an Olimpic sea 42 and that is based on the sun legende 41 and that is a very fast boat.
cheers bob t

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[Robin]

I THINK we saw 19.5kts momentarily, but 1st priority was eyes on the road not the instruments! When we realised the boat was staying dead straight on track and dared look at the log, the figures were dropping like they do as you hit the brakes when you see the speed camera (so I'm told). We did both see the 16.7kts though, just before the bow buried in the wave in front - and the one behind paid a visit to the cockpit! With a bit more time to think I might have steered say 20 degs off straight and kept going longer, probably without burying the bow and getting wet feet. The actual depth flashed though my mind, at this point there is only about 16-20ft of water - if it is flat... and we draw 6'10".

These Jeanneaus from that vintage were superb, Sun Shine, Sun Fizz, Sun Legende, Sun Magic etc.

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