Moving on from our Sparkman & Stephens 34

[sniffyjenkins]

It feels a bit mad to write that title, but that's what we're doing. We need a bit more space and comfort for cruising for our two sets of increasingly aged bones. I'll be very sad to see Kite go but it's time to move on. We need a bigger boat.

Would be interested to hear experiences and opinions (I know you all have opinions...) on any or all of the craft we're looking at. To whit, and in order of 'difference' to my S&S 34:

1. a She 36 - a legend, a stunning beauty, but not that much more interior space
2. a Sigma 362 - sporty, pretty, more space
3. a Granada Atlantica 375 - an outlier, very little info on them but looks good?
4. a Moody 37 - OK getting away from the lookers here but people seem to love them and WHAT an aft cabin
5. and an, ahem, Westerly Corsair. Mainly because it's got the word 'corsair' in it. But also because of the room. And it seems like a tough old boat.

We're trying to get a balance between sailing ability, room beneath, comfort, for cruising around these here parts (south coast, France, CIs, etc.), within our budget of 40K. We've looked at a lovely Rival 36 but its teak deck was original and not OK so NOPE. We've seen two Rival 38 CCs, what enormous beasts! Fabulous but somehow not right for us. Seemed a bit cramped for such large boats? We've seen two Ohlson 38s, stunning boats, but both need too much doing. We're happy to do work but are not in the market for a project again.

So there we are.

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[doug748]

From your list I would be tempted by the Sigma. A lovely thought would be a Starlight 35 but that could bust your budget by 50%.

In the summer I stopped by this boat:

Contessa 35 for sale UK, Contessa boats for sale, Contessa used boat sales, Contessa Sailing Yachts For Sale 1975 Contessa 35 - Apollo Duck

Which might suit but the pilot berths are a bit of a white elephant when short handed cruising.

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[sniffyjenkins]

From your list I would be tempted by the Sigma. A lovely thought would be a Starlight 35 but that could bust your budget by 50%.

In the summer I stopped by this boat:

Contessa 35 for sale UK, Contessa boats for sale, Contessa used boat sales, Contessa Sailing Yachts For Sale 1975 Contessa 35 - Apollo Duck

Which might suit but the pilot berths are a bit of a white elephant when short handed cruising.

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Yes I’d also dreamed of the Starlight but as you say. Money. And agree about the pilot berths in the Contessa.

The Sigma is indeed really interesting, possibly the best balance of what we’re after.

 

[KevinV]

I've cruised on a she36 - fabulous sailing boat but not spacious at all and (because of the legendary status) they look overpriced to me. I'd still fancy one, just because.
There's a lovely Sigma at my club, I'd be very tempted (and a lot more comfortable)

 

[Bedlam]

I have a SHE 36, we moved up from a Sigma 33, the SHE felt a big boat and solid by comparison. We have mainly cruised the west coast of Scotland over the last 11 years with 4 or 5 as crew, raced a couple of West Highland Weeks once with 8 onboard for a couple of days, that was most definitely cramped. All told she has been a fantastic boat and a joy to sail in all conditions. [Content removed]

 

[sniffyjenkins]

I have a SHE 36, we moved up from a Sigma 33, the SHE felt a big boat and solid by comparison. We have mainly cruised the west coast of Scotland over the last 11 years with 4 or 5 as crew, raced a couple of West Highland Weeks once with 8 onboard for a couple of days, that was most definitely cramped. All told she has been a fantastic boat and a joy to sail in all conditions. Unfortunately now on the market, any questions please ask

Thanks so much, this is lovely to hear.

 

[r_h]

You'll enjoy sailing the Sigma and it offers a lot more space than the She. Also consider First 35/345 or First 375. They sail very well and have a lot of room

 

[Supertramp]

With aging bones the bottom end of your list (Moody, Westerly) will obviously be more comfortable down below. But considerably less fun to sail. If I day/weekend sailed, a SHE or Sigma would be well up my list. If I wanted to spend weeks aboard cruising (or staying in a marina), then the others will excel.

History of maintenance and replacement will matter.

Just back from time around the Baltic and I was surprised by the number and range of deck saloon/pilothouse models of 30-40ft beyond the few models that filter into the UK. A pilothouse is very kind to aging bones......

 

[Seven Spades]

I think you should look for a good Westerly Corsair, they are no slouch and you can go anywhere in them. You can get a poor one well below your budget and spend the balance refitting it. Westerleys look like tubs but they don't sail like that.

 

[Concerto]

What about a Westerly Typhoon. Designed for fast sailing and certainly a lot more spacious than a SS34. Certainly not a typical Westerly as were very sporty and although rare, can be close to your budget.

Typhoon 37 - Westerly-Wiki

Westerly Typhoon archive details - Yachtsnet Ltd. online UK yacht brokers - yacht brokerage and boat sales

 

[Laysula]

Biased because we have one, but have a look at a Bavaria 350. Ticks all your boxes and is on your budget.

 

[fredrussell]

…also, Sigma 38 within budget I reckon.

 

[sniffyjenkins]

You'll enjoy sailing the Sigma and it offers a lot more space than the She. Also consider First 35/345 or First 375. They sail very well and have a lot of room

We’ve found a 375 and are looking at her tomorrow!

 

[sniffyjenkins]

What about a Westerly Typhoon. Designed for fast sailing and certainly a lot more spacious than a SS34. Certainly not a typical Westerly as were very sporty and although rare, can be close to your budget.

Typhoon 37 - Westerly-Wiki

Westerly Typhoon archive details - Yachtsnet Ltd. online UK yacht brokers - yacht brokerage and boat sales

Very interesting…

I think you should look for a good Westerly Corsair, they are no slouch and you can go anywhere in them. You can get a poor one well below your budget and spend the balance refitting it. Westerleys look like tubs but they don't sail like that.

The one we were looking at has been sold, but we’ll keep an eye out…

 

[sniffyjenkins]

We bumped into a bloke on a Granada Atlantica 375 today in Padstow. He very kindly invited us on board. What a great boat. Very much looking forward to viewing one on Wednesday…

 

[John 32i]

We bumped into a bloke on a Granada Atlantica 375 today in Padstow. He very kindly invited us on board. What a great boat. Very much looking forward to viewing one on Wednesday…

Pretty rare boat in the UK.

Sigma 362 in SYH 1989 Sigma 362 - Clarke & Carter
(no connection!)

 

[tjbrace]

My First 38s5 is for sale with David Morris brokerage in Tollesbury Essex.

 

[12 Year Plan B-)]

It feels a bit mad to write that title, but that's what we're doing. We need a bit more space and comfort for cruising for our two sets of increasingly aged bones. I'll be very sad to see Kite go but it's time to move on. We need a bigger boat.

Would be interested to hear experiences and opinions (I know you all have opinions...) on any or all of the craft we're looking at. To whit, and in order of 'difference' to my S&S 34:

1. a She 36 - a legend, a stunning beauty, but not that much more interior space
2. a Sigma 362 - sporty, pretty, more space
3. a Granada Atlantica 375 - an outlier, very little info on them but looks good?
4. a Moody 37 - OK getting away from the lookers here but people seem to love them and WHAT an aft cabin
5. and an, ahem, Westerly Corsair. Mainly because it's got the word 'corsair' in it. But also because of the room. And it seems like a tough old boat.

We're trying to get a balance between sailing ability, room beneath, comfort, for cruising around these here parts (south coast, France, CIs, etc.), within our budget of 40K. We've looked at a lovely Rival 36 but its teak deck was original and not OK so NOPE. We've seen two Rival 38 CCs, what enormous beasts! Fabulous but somehow not right for us. Seemed a bit cramped for such large boats? We've seen two Ohlson 38s, stunning boats, but both need too much doing. We're happy to do work but are not in the market for a project again.

So there we are.

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Westerly 33 Ketch. You can get a very well equipped one for about 17k (i.e. mine)!