Mounting outboard on sugar scoop transom

[Jabberwock]

I know there is a school of thought that if it is necessary to use your outboard for emergency propulsion the correct thing to do is is lash your inflatable alongside and mount the outboard on that. However on my previous yacht I bolted one of those lowerable outboard mounts on the vertical transom and was very grateful to have done so on one occasion when a rope wound itself around the prop.
I now have a Moody with a sugar scoop stern. Does anybody know of a way of mounting an outboard on one of these for emergency propulsion? I did once see a boat with a sugar scoop stern with two small round stainless steel studs(?) fitted to the stern which I was told was for mounting an outboard. There must have been another part that clamped onto these two studs on which the outboard was mounted.

 

[sailorman]

you have a saily boat that happens to have an Auxiliary ( proberbly a modern realiable diesel ) engine /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[philip_stevens]

One of the Westerly Owners Assoc. members made an outboard bracket that can be fitted to the ladder on their boats sugar scoop, for just such a situation.

He described it in one of the bi-yearly magazines, but I don't have that edition to hand at the moment.

 

[pete]

My boat has a sugar scoop stern and for emergency's I have fitted a hinged variable height bracket to take the tenders 4hp engine. It has adjustable sides to achive the correct angle so they are available. I do have a inboard but I once had to tie the inflatable alongside to enter harbour but to prevent the weight of the engine fliping the tender on its back I had to have someone in the tender which was not idea in a very sloppy sea.
Pete

 

[William_H]

If you carry an outboard it would seem a good idea to have provision for mounting it on the sugar scoop.
You need to determine the height the motor needs to be mounted.
You need a block of wood perhaps several layers of heavy plywood to clamp the motor onto. I would imagine triangles of angle iron giving 2 paralell legs running forward on the floor of the sugar scoop( perhaps at different levels) would attach to bolts into the floor of the scoop. If you don't want to drill into the floor of the scoop then you could epoxy a large block onto the floor to take the motor bracket.

I can't imagine it very easy to do without disfiguring the boat a little.
ie without making something to stub toes on on the floor of the scoop. There may be existing ladders etc that could be attached to. olewill

 

[simonfraser]

messy, i'd fit a rope cutter/maintain the inboard or use the dinghy as suggested.
you'll also find that the outboard gets lifted out of the water if there is significant wave action.

 

[mikejames]

I once tried the tender-alongside option on my GK24 . Inboard diesel, basic cutter, and a ton of Japanese seaweed tied round the prop. Trying to push into steep waves off Bembridge, the Avon dinghy was bending all over the place with the thrust of the outboard and the boat was not moving. I accepted a tow out to sea.
Other issue with putting engines on the transom, especially on longer boats is that the transom tends to go up and down more than the shaft length of a non-longshaft-saildrive outboard. They will hear you coming a mile off , with a chainsaw impersonation.

I store my tender's 3.5HP Tohatsu on one of those fold-down outboard brackets but then a GK24 has a vertical transom. In flat water, once the boat has accelerated and the stern starts to squat a bit the outboard bites quite well. Until that point, lots of screaming and sucking air.

The one time I needed the outboard on the stern (more seaweed) I had left it on the tender. By the time I got back someone had stolen the outboard as well. :-/