Motor Problem and Naked Carp

[LifeAtSea]

Today is the day that I go to the petrol station to refill the tank thingy that supplies the fuel to the 8HP outboard motor to the boat.
I have never done this before - been to a petol station[I don't drive] or filled up the tank for the boat.

Do I just fill it with petrol or does one have to mix it with oil? I have no idea, just a foggy idea that it's a 'mixed' concoction.

Your answers will be greatly appreciated. I'm also doing a search on the net because I need to do this asap.
Thanks.

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[jimi]

Name of engine would be a start. Dae the residents of the land of the rising sun refer to a small glass of whisky as a wee nip?

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[LifeAtSea]

Hi Jimi,
It's a Yamaha 8. Any help? I've done loads of searches on the net and all I seem to get are confirmations that one does indeed need to fill the tank with a mixture of oil and petrol but for the life of them, they don't give me the parts. Although my Japanese is pretty good, when doing something like this, more often than not there is a cock-up. Not only will the attendants panic at seeing a foreign woman but my being able to converse in their lingo will throw them further off-balance and then chuck in a bright orange fuel tank and hell hath no fury!

We don't have wee drams over here. We have 'Mizu-Wari'. Whiskey with water. The most popular whiskey over here are still the local brands of Suntory et al. I have slowly but surely been winning over friends with Laphroaig and other quality tipples.

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[ParaHandy]

Nip in the air ...

aye ... jist so ... its the time of the year

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[ParaHandy]

Yamaha F8 is a 4 stroke (no direct fuel-oil mix) and Yamaha 8 is a 2 stroke which will need oil mixed into the fuel. The ratio might be 100:1 (when run-in) or 50:1 when new but I chuck 50:1 in reasoning that some more lubricant doesn't do it any harm but then, i don't use it that often ...

hope that helps .. could try yamaha.co.uk for more info?

ps: was told that suntory bottle design and taste was based on Antiquary ... if in tokio, oodles of boozers in ginza flog J&B which is much better ...

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[Dominic]

A Bit of Oily Spirit

What a fuss about nothing.
You need a bit of Petroleum Spirit with a dollop of oily goo in your container. ("Tank" is such a modern word).
Put the goo in first - it saves the shaking, mixing and jiggerring about which can be so misunderstood on the modern forecourt.

The usual mix is about something to something else.

Mixing your national measures it works out as very close to a dram to a stein. Or a "nippy sweety" to a big foaming one.

(2cl to the litre gives you 50 : 1 )


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[BlueSkyNick]

Motor Problem: RTFM.
Naked Carp: WTFTAA?

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[boatone]

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[oldharry]

50 parts water to 1 part best Malt..... NOT a nice thing to do, but take it as petrol to oil and your engine will run nicely thanks.

Thats equivalent to 200ml Malt, in 10 litres of water, and at that ratio I doubt if you could even taste it. What a waste. But it will waste your engine if you dont oil it that way. Too little it will wear out or even seize, too much the plugs will foul up and it will stop at the worst possible moment.



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[masterofnone]

Dont forget next season to drain all that old fuel mixture and start with a nice new mixture. saves on the embarrassing cut out whilst approaching the jetty and fouling the fishermens lines. oh how they laughed!

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[misterg]

I think you could spark a major incident:

Gaijin female attempting to dispense petrol into something which isn't an automobile!!!!! I suspect the white gloved attendants would develop double incontinence at the mere prospect.

Your smoothest / least embarassing course might be to enlist someone with a motorbike (who are generally more au-fait with the niceties of petrol / premix), but you *will* need to find out whether you need neat petrol or petrol / oil mix.

Having visited Japan on a couple of occasions, I can appreciate your question.

Andy

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[LifeAtSea]

It's nice to be understood!
This oil/petrol mix palaver,once done, will forever be a cinch. I wimped out of going to fill up the tank on Sunday and instead lolled around on the boat. I will complete the task next weekend and pray that a cement mixer doesn't collide with me, the bike and the fuel tank!

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[BobOwen]

Seeing as your uncertain about this, I just thought I'd mention you do need the correct type of oil. You shouldn't mix any old engine oil in! Look for 2 stroke oil, most fuel stations must sell it for the million and one scooters whizzing around. Go for the best you can find.

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[LifeAtSea]

Thank you. I can probably ask somebody down at the marina too but the language barrier, although not total, sometimes makes me wonder about the advice that I've been given. One of the blokes called me at home the other day to ask me how many litres there were to a gallon. Damned if I knew but I do now, thanks to the internet. One gallon = 365 litres. He called me again last night to ask me how my middle name was pronounced. 'Rooooo eeeeeeeeeee za' desu ka? You might be able to gather, from these snippets, that I'd prefer to get my information in pure English and from wise sages like yourself.
Thanks again to all the responses. I can't wait for Saturday to put it all in action. Never thought I'd get a thrill over the filling of a fuel tank. Still a challenge is a challenge!

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[floatything]

You probably know this already but 2-stroke oil is often marked 2T
Of course in Japan it could be marked any old way but - it might help.

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[tome]

I have 3 colleagues in Fuchinobe. One has a sturdy can, the second has a calibrated syringe of marine 2-stroke oil, and the third is a well stocked petrol-head.

They are willing to travel to assist you, and in fact have already left to render you aids.

You should avoid offering them monetary gifts, and instead repair to your bunk and await their eventual entry through your new security system.

Hope this helps!
Tom



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[Colin_S]

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One gallon = 365 litres

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Give or take a bit that's 360.55 litres out. This ain't another of your wind up is it???????

You've still not explained the Naked Carp issue.

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[Bejasus]

I think you will find that 1 Imperial Gallon = 4.54 Litres
or 1 US Galon = 3.785 Litres

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[LifeAtSea]

I thought that 1 Imperial gallon = 4.55 litres?



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[BrendanS]

It was you that said "One gallon = 365 litres"?

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