Motor Boat "Charlie" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

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Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

If anyone is, or knows, the owner of "Charlie" a 40ish foot flybridge type which was off Cowes at then can I please bring the following to your attention.

When two yachts are sailing paralel, about 50 feet apart and flying spinnakers in open water it is NOT acceptable to pass between them at speed. Your actions in this caused both boats considerable hardships, I had to go from lock to lock and back very quickly to prevent an accidental gybe as we rolled through 45 degrees each way, and with a less experienced crew we could have easily damaged our spinnaker as it collapsed. As it was your wake came over our stern and I got wet.

It is NEVER acceptable, when asked by the crews of both yachts to slow down/choose another route, to make insluting gestures and shout loud obscene suggestions as to where we should go then laugh as you survey the results of your passing.

For anyone not involved that is reading this, please note this is not a MOBO/raggie issue. This was a simple matter of extreme bad manners, and I have no doubt that this individual would behave just as badly regardless of his chosen method of transport.

 

[jimg]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

I doubt if he is a member of the forum, but maybe some-one here knows the boat?

 

[longjohnsilver]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

What a plonker, hope someone has a not too quiet word in his ear.

Did you make a report to the coastguard?

 

[Chris_d]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

I know you didn't mean it as a mobo/raggie war post, but I rather resent the implication that anybody here might even know the plonker.

 

[colingr]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

Oh dear, most of us try to keep wash etc away from you guys and then a t****r like that pops up and undoes all of the good relations.

Apologies from the mobo side.

 

[MedDreamer]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

Well, there has to be a chance, a 40ft Flybridge is almost certainly in a marina somewhere near a forumites berth.

Likewise, there are many 40ft flybridges berthed next to yaches so hopefully he will have posted this on scuttlebutt as well so that any neighbouring raggies could also "have a word".

 

[Stoaty]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

Report it It is a reportable incident.

 

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Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

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Report it It is a reportable incident.

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Don't really think it's worth it to be honest, don't think we have enough details to be sure of the identity of the other boat. To be honest the name was part obscured and "charlie" is a best guess. And as I'm not the owner it's not really my call.

 

[Chris_d]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

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Well, there has to be a chance, a 40ft Flybridge is almost certainly in a marina somewhere near a forumites berth.

Likewise, there are many 40ft flybridges berthed next to yaches so hopefully he will have posted this on scuttlebutt as well so that any neighbouring raggies could also "have a word".

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Agreed, but it was only posted here.

 

[Kilter]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

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Oh dear, most of us try to keep wash etc away from you guys and then a t****r like that pops up and undoes all of the good relations.

Apologies from the mobo side.

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This weekend we were passed by many mobos and without fail all the big ones were very courteous. The problems came from pwcs, ski boats and ribs in that order, with most drivers being young males

 

[flaming]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

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Well, there has to be a chance, a 40ft Flybridge is almost certainly in a marina somewhere near a forumites berth.

Likewise, there are many 40ft flybridges berthed next to yaches so hopefully he will have posted this on scuttlebutt as well so that any neighbouring raggies could also "have a word".

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Agreed, but it was only posted here.

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I thought about posting in s'but, but in the end decided that it was more likely to be seen as just a MOBO/raggie incident, which as I've said I don't regard it as.

Plus I have to admit that I wouldn't have the first clue what any of the MOBOs berthed near us are called as I don't have any interest in them, and only slightly better on cruising boats, wheras I could probably tell you the name, type and recent results of most of the racing yachts in the marina!
So on that logic I figured that people here were more likely to have noticed it if it berths near them.

 

[DavidJ]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

Very good posting. Not only are the chances of this getting back to "Charlie" are quite high but exposure like this might just educate others to think twice in similar circumstances. I'm pleased that you haven't turned this into a Raggie/Stinkpot turf war (other postings have in the past) as I think your approach will have far more effect.

 

[SolentPhill]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

It is a shame when a few idiots get MOBO a bad name, I was fishing on Thursday I dont do a lot of fishing I was off bognor and saw about 6 boats all fishing, thought they must be on a good spot so I went over and joined them. We were all in a circle about 200yds diameter, after an hour a red sunseeker about 40ft came in our direction and instead of going round us all he went through the middle, everyone was rolling about due to this totally selfish action.

 

[LAMBADA]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

I would totally agree with you this is unacceptable and is a reportable incident I also welcome the manner of your request.

Please can I ask you for some help in spreading the word amongst your fellow yachties about a way to assist us guys (please be assured that like you have said this has nothing to do with us v them).

I like many (if not all people on this forum) try my best to keep my wash down to a minimum when passing any small or sailing boat. My area of boating (Conwy) has very big tides and as the Marinas in that area are governed by half tide barriers on a nice day when the lights turn to green there is a mass exodus and because the tides are allways against you when departing and returning, some of the sailing boats with little power struggle to make headway, the consiquence of this is it takes a relatively long time to pass a single boat.
My point is this, It makes life much easier for us if once we are ahead of you, you cut into our wakes so that we can make a little bit faster progress obviously I would not expect this if you are under sail and raceing. In the past when I have past sailing boats I have tried changing my course to stear some of you guys into my wake but unfortunately when I was about 100 metres ahead of one boat and did this it was met with some abuse.
I have many friends with sailing boats and when I have been out sailing with them and pointed this out they have adopted this method and have agreed that it makes life more enjoyable for all.
Once again I'm not having a go.
Cheers
Andy

 

[DAKA]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

There are certain busy areas of the solent where you should expect to encounter fast moving boats.

Hurst narrows for example.

Someone as experienced as you already know this and should be prepared and rigged for sea.

Any accident would have been directed toward you first as skipper, especially if you had 'guests ' on board.

Sure your Insurers might try to recover off the stinker , but you need to ask your self if it was sensible to have your spinnaker flying near Prince Consort.
Clearly an area well know for fast moving boats including the Red Funnel.

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[Deleted User YDKXO]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

I think the name 'Charlie' probably tells you all you need to know about the owner of this boat. More seriously, if you're off Cowes and in danger of accidentally gybing, what do you do when the monstrous wake of a RedJet comes along or any other large vessels which are always around there? A RedJet wake is far worse than any 40ft mobo can make

 

[flaming]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

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I thought you were experienced and knew the area.

Spinnaker up between Guard and Prince Consort

Bit like riding a horse on the A1 and expecting traffic to be considerate.

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Unlike you, I'm no troll. Incident took place just east of Cowes, near Gales HSB racing mark, which was a turning mark for us.

 

[flaming]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

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There are certain busy areas of the solent where you should expect to encounter fast moving boats.

Hurst narrows for example.

Someone as experienced as you already know this and should be prepared and rigged for sea.

Any accident would have been directed toward you first as skipper, especially if you had 'guests ' on board.

Sure your Insurers might try to recover off the stinker , but you need to ask your self if it was sensible to have your spinnaker flying near Prince Consort.
Clearly an area well know for fast moving boats including the Red Funnel.

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That wasn't edited, it was completely re-written, see my post above for the original!

Firstly, although I do currently make my living taking guests sailing this was not such a time, I was out racing with friends and was not the skipper.

The red funnel is a bit of a smokescreen here, as it sails predictable courses and I would never let it get within 15 feet, as the vessel in question did, meaning we were hit by the bit of the wash that was still breaking.

As we were over an hour into our race, we were clearly "prepared and for sea". There was never any real danger as we are an experienced race crew in a 37 foot boat and everyone was aware of the approach of the beast - I just got wet as the wave came over our stern. As I said before I do not regard this as a MOBO/raggie issue. Certainly the coming that close and throwing us about that violently was very irritating, but we'd have probably have let it go with just a shake of the head if it hadn't been for the swearing, insulting gestures and laughing that was evident by many (not all) of the people on board the power boat.

 

[PEJ]

Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

Flaming: Can I ask did he overtake you or go between you in the opposite direction?

General question - what about when one is in Southampton water and there are a couple of yachts sailing side by side?

For those who don't know So'ton Water is about 1/2 mile wide where you usually navigate and mostly a busy place. If I am heading back in and two yachts are heading out just how far apart can they be for me to drive between them and not irritate them?

 

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Re: Motor Boat \"Charlie\" off Cowes at 1200 Yesterday (sunday)

He was overtaking, had bags of room to go either side.

I think pretty much every similar situation is a judgement call, almost impossible to give a hard and fast rule.