Mooring lines cut - what's your take?

sailorman said:
You have been allocated a mooring, that mooring is not yours until, you either pay the owner for it or you pay for new mooring gear.
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35mm seems to be using "mooring" to mean the site, the particular patch of riverbed and the right to keep a boat there, not the tackle that's used to actually secure the boat. Within that meaning, he's correct that "the mooring" is his.

Pete
 
sailorman said:
You have been allocated a mooring, that mooring is not yours until, you either pay the owner for it or you pay for new mooring gear.
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As I have already said, I've already paid the harbour authority for the mooring. The licence is mine. He is not the owner! Just the gear that is his.
 
Just phoned him. Said I noticed he'd removed the buoy. He chuckled quietly and said, "Weren't me. Haven't been any where near it." I offered him £80 and he's happy with that, so meeting him in the pub on Saturday mid day. So that's sorted. As for the rope cutting and missing buoy? Well I guess we'll never really know, but that chuckle was a telling chuckle if ever I heard one ;)
 
35mm said:
Just phoned him. Said I noticed he'd removed the buoy. He chuckled quietly and said, "Weren't me. Haven't been any where near it." I offered him £80 and he's happy with that, so meeting him in the pub on Saturday mid day. So that's sorted. As for the rope cutting and missing buoy? Well I guess we'll never really know, but that chuckle was a telling chuckle if ever I heard one ;)
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You got lucky, After accusing him of something you had no proof of I'm surprised he didn't say it's 150 now.:D
 
Spyro said:
You got lucky, After accusing him of something you had no proof of I'm surprised he didn't say it's 150 now.:D
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Well I worded it in a way where by I wasn't accusing him. I just said, "Oh I see you've removed your buoy." Didn't mention anything about cutting ropes!
 
If I have got this right you had his number but he did not have yours . You told him you would be in touch as to whether you were going to buy his tackle or not then "You forgot" to contact him for around two months, and only remembered when his buoy went missing.

If that is the case I would have been pretty embarrassed about the whole thing and certainly would not posted it on here.
Pete
 
I have read some crazy threads on here but this one takes the biscuit. You buy a sought-after mooring but not it's tackle. You moor up to tackle you have not fitted but are happy to use. You inspect the tackle and see that it is customized to the mooring. You value the tackle on the desirable mooring and decide it can be replaced for 80 quid. You contact the man who owns it and he wants 20 quid more to save your inconvenience. You tell him you need to think about that and do not get back to him for two months because you have interpreted the harbourmaster, who sold you the mooring but not the tackle, as telling you you should try it all out for a couple of months before parting with a twenty quid premium. You then remove your boat and the owner of the gear you have been using without commitment removes some part of his property withou giving you notice. You then return to the mooring to pick up his gear and find it missing. Have I got this right?

I am paying 2.5k per annum in a marina and they have as yet failed to suggest that I use their mooring warps on long term trial. Insanely they insist I use my own at a disappointing cost of more than twenty quid. It's sad to see you don't get much for the money nowadays.

If i was your man I don't think I'd have a beer with you. I might get on with you, end up standing a round, and find myself out of pocket.
 
35mm said:
I started this thread because I thought it would be interesting to share the experience and hear other peoples opinions. It does amaze me some times how people reply with out properly reading a thread first, and how you get a chain of people basing their reply on the reply of someone else who missed the facts before posting. I think some of the facts got lost along the way. This thread was never about whether I was right or wrong, or whether I should pay the guy for his tackle or not. I do appreciate the opinions of those who actually read the details and facts first, regardless of their leanings!
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What are the facts that we have been missing? So strange to see that this thread is not about whether you were right or wrong or whether you should pay the guy or not.... Isn't it you that started this thread and didn't you write the quote below?

35mm said:
I'm not too sure how to deal with this one, so any suggestions are welcome. .
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Have I got what I deserved for not getting back to him sooner? Should I still pay him the "undred quid"?
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I suppose there is always the chance that the damage may have been carried out by A N Other who may have had a grudge against yer man knowing that was his mooring.
 
Giblets said:
I suppose there is always the chance that the damage may have been carried out by A N Other who may have had a grudge against yer man knowing that was his mooring.
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Good point. I hadn't thought of that, but I doubt it. That sort of thing just doesn't happen around here.
 
bitbaltic said:
I have read some crazy threads on here but this one takes the biscuit. You buy a sought-after mooring but not it's tackle. You moor up to tackle you have not fitted but are happy to use. You inspect the tackle and see that it is customized to the mooring. You value the tackle on the desirable mooring and decide it can be replaced for 80 quid. You contact the man who owns it and he wants 20 quid more to save your inconvenience. You tell him you need to think about that and do not get back to him for two months because you have interpreted the harbour master, who sold you the mooring but not the tackle, as telling you you should try it all out for a couple of months before parting with a twenty quid premium. You then remove your boat and the owner of the gear you have been using without commitment removes some part of his property withou giving you notice. You then return to the mooring to pick up his gear and find it missing. Have I got this right?

I am paying 2.5k per annum in a marina and they have as yet failed to suggest that I use their mooring warps on long term trial. Insanely they insist I use my own at a disappointing cost of more than twenty quid. It's sad to see you don't get much for the money nowadays.

If i was your man I don't think I'd have a beer with you. I might get on with you, end up standing a round, and find myself out of pocket.
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You obviously haven't read the thread through, and have your facts and figures wrong. I don't think I'd want a beer with you either.

Wow so you pay 2.5k to tie your huge boat to a plank of wood? Bet you have to drive about a undred miles to get to it in your big, expensive car from your big, expensive town house too? Sure you'd be more than happy to pay £100 for a couple lengths of rope. Do you have any idea how things work down here in the real world? Nope!
 
I really don't see the problem here. It is his gear he obviously took a look at it at low tide when you weren't there and he recovered the bit he wanted after all it belonged to him. When was the last time you went to a chandeliers? I doubly you could buy the chain for less than£150 let alone the shackles £50+ and the bouts. The chap was asking £100 for what in all likelihood would cost £300-400 new.

I am amazed that you have told everyone what you failed to do and more so that you seem indignant. If I had read this posting and it was me that owned the kit I would remove the lot when you go out.
 
Now I suggest when you meet him in the pub that you expect him to give you at least a years written warranty that his gear wont fail :rolleyes:
 
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