Mooring lines cut - what's your take?

Actually I lean even further on the side of the mooring owner here. Remember, he didn't do anything to the OP's boat. The gear he cut was his own, which the OP had no right to be using, and he did it while the OP was moored elsewhere so no possibility of harm. I can quite understand his position of "sod you, if you ain't gonna pay for it, you can damn well stop using it". Not saying I'd definitely have done the same, but I find it hard to blame him.

Pete

Well infact he had no right to cut the tackle off (if he did), as he didn't remove the tackle when his licence ran out he left it for the next licence holder to have. He probably only remembered when he was asked if he wanted money for the old tackle, then thought Oh, a few quid for nowt, probably not his either!. Cut it all loose leave it on the quay or slip and fit your own new stuff.
 
You obviously haven't read the thread through, and have your facts and figures wrong. I don't think I'd want a beer with you either.

Wow so you pay 2.5k to tie your huge boat to a plank of wood? Bet you have to drive about a undred miles to get to it in your big, expensive car from your big, expensive town house too? Sure you'd be more than happy to pay £100 for a couple lengths of rope. Do you have any idea how things work down here in the real world? Nope!

35mm, your'e in real danger of talking yourself into a situation that's unresolvable - ask yourself why. Ok he did wrong (it seems), you did wrong (we know), but you still haven't paid him the money so you continue to do wrong. Why do you think you are right in not paying him now and dealing finally with the issue?
Maybe you are secretly enjoying feeling self righteous about this? If you are, it'll never end and noone will be happy.
Pay him and have done with it - and for get about the beers!!!!!!!!
 
I refer the honourable gentleman to paragraph 1 of post #35.

If you insist on people reading everything carefully, and answering in a considered and honest fashion, you will take all the fun out of reading soaps, sorry threads like this one. :D
 
You obviously haven't read the thread through, and have your facts and figures wrong. I don't think I'd want a beer with you either.

Wow so you pay 2.5k to tie your huge boat to a plank of wood? Bet you have to drive about a undred miles to get to it in your big, expensive car from your big, expensive town house too? Sure you'd be more than happy to pay £100 for a couple lengths of rope. Do you have any idea how things work down here in the real world? Nope!

Have I hit a nerve?

The boat's fifteen minutes away from my terraced house, and I drive to it in a car recently valued at £450 quid.

It's precisely because I am realistic about the cost of boating that I am ribbing (not insulting) you. You are talking about trivial money, not in terms of the cost of living, but in terms of the cost of boating, and in terms of good manners to the other boater who bought and owns the tackle you have been using.

Thanks for calling the boat huge though I'm as susceptible to flattery as anyone else. Might even buy you a beer if you keep on like that. ;)

No harm meant.

Cheers.
 
Have I hit a nerve?

The boat's fifteen minutes away from my terraced house, and I drive to it in a car recently valued at £450 quid.

It's precisely because I am realistic about the cost of boating that I am ribbing (not insulting) you. You are talking about trivial money, not in terms of the cost of living, but in terms of the cost of boating, and in terms of good manners to the other boater who bought and owns the tackle you have been using.

Thanks for calling the boat huge though I'm as susceptible to flattery as anyone else. Might even buy you a beer if you keep on like that. ;)

No harm meant.

Cheers.
My reply was a bit unduly angry, so I guess you did hit a nerve! I appriciate you not biting my head off for that. What you spend each year to moor your boat, is about 1k more than I bought my boat for, although I was lucky and got a bargain. I must admit I am very lucky to have spent my whole life in such a beautiful location. It only takes me about 15 mins to walk to where my boat is moored. I'm also very lucky to have a mooring here that only costs me £30 PA + harbour dues. However, it has taken me most of my life to get one as there is a huge waiting list that gets longer year by year. I learned to sail with my father who had a mooring back in the day when there were far less moorings, far less houses and all the houses were lived in throughout the year - yes I live in one of those places where most of the community has been forced out to make way for second homes, and house prices have become ridiculous. Mooring controls are very tight. You have to be a long term resident of one of five villages (that all have some geographical claim to the river), although on occasion it seems that having vast wealth can almost instantly get you to the top of the waiting list, pushing others like my self back to the bottom. Moorings can not be inherited and even widows have to jump through hoops just to have a slight chance of keeping their late husband's mooring. Plans to install marinas have so far been killed off by local resistance thankfully!

It is very easy to grow up in a place like this and dwell on how unlucky you are to have seen it all change for the worse over the years, and completely forget how lucky you are to be here enjoying what is left. So yes, you are completely right. £100 is nothing. However, that was not really what the thread was about. It was more to do with, should the guy have cut the ropes? Is it what I deserved for not getting back to him sooner? Should I still pay his asking price now the ropes are cut? Should I just get him to take his gear away as I am under no obligation to buy it? It's now sorted any way as he snapped my hand off when I offered him £80. Yes you probably think I'm bloody lucky, and all of this was very trivial, and I really can't blame you when you have to pay so much to moor your boat close to where you live. I simply couldn't afford to continue boating if I had to pay that much. I hope you get loads of security for that cost, and no chance of someone cutting your mooring lines! :)
 
My reply was a bit unduly angry, so I guess you did hit a nerve! I appriciate you not biting my head off for that. What you spend each year to moor your boat, is about 1k more than I bought my boat for, although I was lucky and got a bargain. I must admit I am very lucky to have spent my whole life in such a beautiful location. It only takes me about 15 mins to walk to where my boat is moored. I'm also very lucky to have a mooring here that only costs me £30 PA + harbour dues. However, it has taken me most of my life to get one as there is a huge waiting list that gets longer year by year. I learned to sail with my father who had a mooring back in the day when there were far less moorings, far less houses and all the houses were lived in throughout the year - yes I live in one of those places where most of the community has been forced out to make way for second homes, and house prices have become ridiculous. Mooring controls are very tight. You have to be a long term resident of one of five villages (that all have some geographical claim to the river), although on occasion it seems that having vast wealth can almost instantly get you to the top of the waiting list, pushing others like my self back to the bottom. Moorings can not be inherited and even widows have to jump through hoops just to have a slight chance of keeping their late husband's mooring. Plans to install marinas have so far been killed off by local resistance thankfully!

It is very easy to grow up in a place like this and dwell on how unlucky you are to have seen it all change for the worse over the years, and completely forget how lucky you are to be here enjoying what is left. So yes, you are completely right. £100 is nothing. However, that was not really what the thread was about. It was more to do with, should the guy have cut the ropes? Is it what I deserved for not getting back to him sooner? Should I still pay his asking price now the ropes are cut? Should I just get him to take his gear away as I am under no obligation to buy it? It's now sorted any way as he snapped my hand off when I offered him £80. Yes you probably think I'm bloody lucky, and all of this was very trivial, and I really can't blame you when you have to pay so much to moor your boat close to where you live. I simply couldn't afford to continue boating if I had to pay that much. I hope you get loads of security for that cost, and no chance of someone cutting your mooring lines! :)

OK no harm done.

I know what you are saying about the cost and difficulty of living in the place you grew up in and want to call home. I live in a beautiful town too with astronomical house prices. I grew up here. I'm the only one of my schoolfriends that was able to buy here (after many years of working away to build a career). And even so I have to maintain that by continuing to work internationally (note the location on profile) and haven't seen the wife and kids for 3 weeks now and won't be with them at Christmas. Still it means we can live where we want and buy a boat which we love. But there's no point wishing things otherwise when you grow up in towns like ours. I recognised early that I'd have to do what it took so I do it.

It sounds like your harbour authority recognise all that and work hard to try and maintain the moorings for locals. It's part of that that it takes time to get one. I don't think you are lucky to get one I'm sure you deserve it or else it wouldn't have been offered to you.

Absolutely no hard feelings and I will buy you that beer anytime.

Cheers.
 
Well infact he had no right to cut the tackle off (if he did), as he didn't remove the tackle when his licence ran out he left it for the next licence holder to have.
Do you know this for a fact? Not the case here. Whilst he may have had to remove the tackle (depending on the terms of the mooring lease) it doesn't transfer to the new mooring holder automatically.
 
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