Moody 37/376 as bluewater yacht?

[AndrewB]

Regarding the emergency inner stay, just been discussing this with a friend. To lift the strop, bring 47 ft of swinging wire to it and get the pin in the Seasure lever isn't a single handed job even in a chop. The suggestion is to replace the lever and strop with a mainsheet type tackle, using dyneema and a snap shackle or pelican type connector. Seems that would be much easier - any thoughts about strength?

The one on my Moody 376 is a rather simpler arrangement. A permanently rigged length of 7mm 7 x 7 wire that can be shackled to a ring just behind the forestay, leads up to a block on the mast and then down, with a rope tail for tensioning on one of the winches. Strength has to be questioned. I've yet to try it in a blow. We are hoping to cross to Turkey soon, and with the meltemi the way it is this season, a storm jib will be a must.

 

[Tranona]

At the risk of starting a flame war, can I warn that advice from people on the best choice of yacht for extended blue-water cruising who have not actually done this themselves, needs to be taken with caution.

How patronising - beware people who think only they know what is what.

All advice needs to be taken with caution - that is why it is advice. The individual asking for advice can make up their own mind what is suitable for them.

BTW hundreds of people who have successfully cruised "blue water" have done it in boats that are not like the one you used.

 

[Just_sayin']

Strength has to be questioned / I've yet to try it in a blow / a storm jib will be a must.

Well, good luck with that.

 

[GrahamM376]

BTW hundreds of people who have successfully cruised "blue water" have done it in boats that are not like the one you used.

I'm no longer surprised to hear where people have been in what I used to think the most unlikely boats. Some considered to be "old bangers" such as Centaurs and Heavenly Twins are still doing circumnavigations. More often than not, the important point is the experience of the crew and a blue water boat doesn't have to be expensive or large, just fit for the particular voyage at the time, in the weather expected.

 

[Just_sayin']

I'm no longer surprised to hear where people have been in what I used to think the most unlikely boats. Some considered to be "old bangers" such as Centaurs and Heavenly Twins are still doing circumnavigations. More often than not, the important point is the experience of the crew and a blue water boat doesn't have to be expensive or large, just fit for the particular voyage at the time, in the weather expected.

That post is really quite funny but it's probably lost on Mr Defensive My Boat Is The Best Boat In The Whole Wide World.

 

[AndrewB]

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[AndrewB]

Well, good luck with that.

Err ... thanks, Just_sayin'. Crawling over an exposed foredeck in a F8 to rescue a flailing foresail does not count among my favourite sailing activities.

 

[Tranona]

I'm no longer surprised to hear where people have been in what I used to think the most unlikely boats. Some considered to be "old bangers" such as Centaurs and Heavenly Twins are still doing circumnavigations. More often than not, the important point is the experience of the crew and a blue water boat doesn't have to be expensive or large, just fit for the particular voyage at the time, in the weather expected.

Seems many people go with what they have, or as seems to be the case for the OP, looks around at what is available that others have used. So, if you are in a particular price bracket and have a certain style of boat in mind then a short list of possibles pops up pretty quickly. A UK orientated short list in this price range would inevitably have a Moody or a Westerly near the top, particularly if it was a centre cockpit. Less money would be either a smaller or an older version from similar builders. More money would mean bigger or newer and probably bring in other builders such as HR, Contest or the Bavaria Ocean range and no doubt others.

All of these designs are aimed at serious cruisers, but not all are used for that and equally some serious cruisers (and dreamers) might find them unsatisfactory. Almost by definition this is not a mass market so not surprising that you see a wide variety of different designs being used. One big advantage of using a well proven and popular design is that it is arguably easier to sell when the time comes.

 

[GrahamM376]

Seems many people go with what they have, or as seems to be the case for the OP, looks around at what is available that others have used. So, if you are in a particular price bracket and have a certain style of boat in mind then a short list of possibles pops up pretty quickly. A UK orientated short list in this price range would inevitably have a Moody or a Westerly near the top, particularly if it was a centre cockpit. Less money would be either a smaller or an older version from similar builders. More money would mean bigger or newer and probably bring in other builders such as HR, Contest or the Bavaria Ocean range and no doubt others.

All of these designs are aimed at serious cruisers, but not all are used for that and equally some serious cruisers (and dreamers) might find them unsatisfactory. Almost by definition this is not a mass market so not surprising that you see a wide variety of different designs being used. One big advantage of using a well proven and popular design is that it is arguably easier to sell when the time comes.

This is what I was getting at, one one side I have an Amel Santorin (expensive) and ahead at the other extreme, I have this French steel boat around 35ft, no prizes for guessing which has done the most miles.

 

[Pär1]

Sometimes we are thinking "go with what we have" but that will outrole a lot of areas I think, even though she is a good boat I don't want to be in here in really bad weather. The equation money - when stop working and Saul away and "the best yacht" is complicated .
Thanks everybody so far, and keep on coment

 

[GrahamM376]

Sometimes we are thinking "go with what we have" but that will outrole a lot of areas I think, even though she is a good boat I don't want to be in here in really bad weather. The equation money - when stop working and Saul away and "the best yacht" is complicated .
Thanks everybody so far, and keep on coment

One of these berthed next to us. Well built blue water boats with plenty of headroom for you, a lot of boat for the money and a few around for sale. I would love one but.......

http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/817887/

 

[Pär1]

Agree, would love that boat. But, the money...

 

[Mrnotming]

You could look at a Salar 40 I think they are called, centre wheelshelter cockpit, owners seem to like them? Some may have been home completed, not sure, other posters will come along!

 

[All_at_Sea]

Hello

Just seen this thread, how about the older Angus Primrose 42 ketch. Perfect size for two and family, wheel shelter for those wet weather sails, good size engine and actually sails brilliantly with the added advantage of the ketch rig for numerous sail combinations - and an inner forestay.

Slightly biased as we own one and can't praise it enough for what you want. They don't come up that often as only about 10 were built with the centre cockpit.

Happy hunting.

 

[Pär1]

Thank's for suggestions. We wan't to stat below 12 m length due to marina costa etc.

 

[wazza]

Pär
There is an island in Sweden called Orust ;-) yes I know you know..so why aren't you considering those types, is it the price.?
We have a N343 and funnily enough looked at Moody 35 & 376 both of which I personally thought had great layouts....

 

[Pär1]

the Orust yachts are high in prize, and old Teak decks frightens me...

 

[jonic]

I have just come across this thread and will say the 376 is a good blue water boat.

I did a continuous 8 years liveaboard including transatlantic and 10's of 1000's of miles in a Moody 38 and a Westerly Corsair.

Currently I have an almost mint Jeanneau 37 - but that is because I am staying very local for a while and need a maintenance schedule of "point a hose at it"

When we go off again I shall change it - probably for an HR or a one off design.

However the Bavaria Ocean is an excellent good value choice.

 

[Pär1]

Thank You John, the Corsair (and some other Westerlys) also seems interesting, we look at them too.

 

[Sybarite]

Agree, would love that boat. But, the money...

Have a look at the Amel Sharki. 12m.