MOBO big boys toys, safe as caravans

ShipsWoofy

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After Peties post on the new Fairyline inane 38ft caravan I wonder if this is the peak of ambiguity between an expensive still water boys toy or is it that I am out of touch and living in the past.

Glossy plastic everywhere, televisions marking luxury like twiddly knobs on Japanese hifi. Buy a hifi because it matches the colour scheme, forget that it might actually sound rubbish.

Well here we have the ipod boats, look beautiful, play ok in the right circumstances but miss that ingredient that separates quality from luxury, fit form function!

It seems to me, looking around the marina that you lot (stinky purchasers) have forgotten what it is you are buying. You are paying ¾ million quid upwards for a waterside apartment. ¾ million quid for a big block of plastic that has you running for shelter in anything over F4 in the Solent the biggest marine lake in the country.

There are a few on here I have now found who also see these problems, yet for anyone to mention it we are accused of being jealous, envious or worse non director types who should stick to eating out of the gutter.

So I thought I would write to your forum at the risk of gaining more enemies and ask why are you letting the designers run your industry with as much irreverence as those who build theme rooms out of MDF with nowhere to sit down. It appears that grab handles have become so September 10th darling; Also remove chart tables so we can squeeze in another giant plasma television.

Let us monitor everything so our helm can take on the look of a 1970’s aircraft cockpit. Our customers want to be Captain Kirk, lets let them. Of course the temperature of the hob needs to be monitored at the helm. We will even play real boats by adding navigation lights even though the helm wont see a thing over the light pollution created when we light up all these dials and switches at night.

Lifebuoys will ruin the designers masterpiece so ensure they have to be hidden away, hell our customers never leave the pontoon anyway. With this in mind we can make it impossible to attach a lifeline and add curve to all the decks, so if they manage to get up there we can still make em slip over the side, nicely tripping over our 12” tall stanchions, taller would look so ugly.

This teardrop stencil was a present from the wife I had better show that I am using it. Nearly finished what can I finish the look with, a spoiler, I can’t fit side-skirts like the 80’s GTI boys toys but I sure can put an enormous pram handle spoiler on it.

Now lets see, an electric hob, my brother in law is buying all the Solent marinas up so I can help him a bit, a microwave, brilliant but not as clever as my electric oven. Luxury is now the useless galley, but at least it matches the décor. Now the heads, I see a nice Victorian theme here with big old porcelain sinks and an electric bog, no-one will ever use when not plugged in so that’s ok then.

Lets now have a good look at our lighting, we have a warehouse full of halogen flush fitting lights, lets use a minimum of 18 to light the saloon, if the microwave and hob doesn’t trip the shore power or burn out the inverters these will. More luxury, lets include a washing machine, you can’t prepare a meal but at least you will have clean socks on board.

We will endorse gadget companies to fix our faults, man over board alarms will remove our duty to allow people to move about the boat safely. A liferaft shelf will help the crew survive a force 6 storm. >>>

Lets be honest, I had never heard of a 38ft boat staying in harbour because the winds were gusting F4 until I started reading YBW, why are you buying boats not fit for function and thinking that is ok because the designers must know what they are doing.

This is all sports boats not just the 38ft+. Someone on here made a comment that he wished the presenters on the boatshow program would stop referring to our boats as gin palaces. Well I am afraid, I think they are right, they are gin palaces.

Discuss without mentioning raggies, this is not a them and us, this is why are you buying boats that are not boats?
 
Hah! an obvious ploy

You obviously, oh so very obviously... have never been on a decent sized mobo. 38fot is easily decent sized tho as with sail bigger to a point is better.

I didn't believe it but you don't really need handholds for most if not all of the time. Yep, the boat will be fine in big sea, and there's no need for deck work so utterly no need for lifelines - unlike a yot thiz no sails nor mast nor string getting tangled, see? Anyprobs and it's in the engineroom innit?

Lots of tables so no need to dedicate one to this pupose in the same way as a small rya-approved 28foot ragboat. Saloon table will do fine for this. Nice swmbo's come on mobo's , see unlike raggie it won't have breakfast remains on it.

Even at 28+ knots on larger boats you can dance with swmbo on the foredeck - i have pix somewhere. Also the dash light have dimmers. Yeah, real sort of not 1950's stuff unlike on a flippin production ragboat, weird eh?!

On passage, we all hung back, stinkie (me) and three ragboats, and hid in a creek and all wondered about the weather for three days and all "went for it" on the same morning. Cept i was in the stuf for an hour or so whereas they must've spent most of the day at 4knots in the stuff, tacking up and down. So which was safer. The mobo, by miles.

Separetly, day sailing, mobos are about having fun. Like sailing boats really, but different. I've been on sailing boats in big wind and me or skip has sed this is a bit daft lets go back. Same applies to mobos- they will get thru and tho perhaps not in such survival conditions they do make more sense - in certain circumstances.

Imho the "certain circumstances" include the med where winds are frequently F 1 or f2 or indeed F all. So saily boat a bit hopeless. But then sailyboat imho better in sprighlty solent and caribee where constant wind is more suited to sail.

Sepretly google for the reluctant sailor, lots of libby purves columns - and then wonder why few wimin go on ragboats in the solent - and why otoh mobos in the med have actually far more wimmin than blokes onnem.

They are boats - just different ones.

The Obvious Ploy...was your post designed to get a free trip - Right - you get yerself down here and i'll blimmin show you? Good move! Needs a bit more work yet tho praps....

Also, i have far more enemies that you, yer wimp. Starting with a certain pickup courier parcel van driver this afternoon ahem..
 
Grassing up Woofy

Oh no i cannot tell. Oh well alright yes i can.

See, poor ole shipswoofy's boat being raggiefied is all a bit primitive and uncomfy. Even for a cat! So that is indeed pretty blimmin awful.

Now, he's found out i've got loads of insulation and as gotten me to sendim some on the pretext of "insulating the engineroom" . Hah. Of course, we all know that is total rubbish, and really the fact is that his bioat is so uncomfy he plans to kip on the insulation, and perhaps just use a bit of the stuff in the engineroom. I mean, it can't be that his engine is too noisy else why on earth wd he have a go at mobos, hm?

Well, that is the other Unpoken Lie - if you want to listen to diesel engine for thje longest amount of time - go on a raggie boat where engine hours are far higher than yer average stinkie. They go slowly tho.

Oh and anyway, the insualtion is on it's way and weighs loads, and pickup driver whinged about it.

Hah i bet he hates me now eh?
 
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why are you letting the designers run your industry

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Our customers want to be Captain Kirk, lets let them.

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Make you mind up. So according to you on the one hand the designers are TELLING us what we what but on the other they are GIVING us what we want. Which is it?

Anyway I think you're just jealous, envious (which when I went to school meant more or less the same) and even worse clearly a non director type who should stick to eating out of the gutter. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Pour me another G&T would you darling...........
 
Now come on ... Barvaria and legend to you, to name but a few!

The same question can be asked:

Why do you, the rag and stick brigade buy such rubish?!

These are dumpy caravans with a stick on the roof, they point like a blunt pencil, have to be reefed in a force 3 as they are so fat as soon as they heel they start going around in circles!

In a force 4 the keel even drops off and kills you.

what happened to the beautiful lines of a Folkboat of old?
 
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Blimey, GC1 HAS upset you hasnt he.

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I do not understand how this has been taken as an anti CG1 post, seriously not my intention. Pete (CG1) took a group of photographs that could be labelled 'what the brochures don't tell you'. This is were the connection to CG1 starts and finishes.

His photographs allowed me to look around a MOBO in a way that I had not been able to before. That and the birchwood 47 was it he posted earlier in the week.

The post is a culmination of comments I have been making for a while about plastic sports boats, for some on here that appear to have taken it very personally and name call or question if I am depressed I find very odd indeed.

I tried to ask some questions and comment what I see in your sport with a little humour and a dash of worry that producing a designer toy seems to have overtaken producing a sea worthy boat.

I invite Pete to comment, he has seemingly spent a full week climbing over new powerboats and is in a position to correct any comments I made.

Hope this clarifies my position.
 
NOT a \"gin palace\"

I hear this phrase a lot. The question arises, what's wrong with a gin palace. Or any palace? Would it be better to be a "beer shed". or a tea hut?

Yet often obliquley - it's often a test to see if one is a bit of a git or not. But in fact, - lots of mobo types are not total gits. Like punk rockers, they just must have a sense of humour to burn a whol load of loot on something so wonderfully silly as a massive mobo. Either than or (like a few punk rockers) they might indeed be utter, utter gits. But not that many.

Of course, used by a brit, a gin palace is a sneering term of ostentatious consumption. We aren't the worst tho -I hear in france the aim is to have the most knackered banger imaginable and i met a multisquillionaire in france driving a 20year old renault 4 around his vast vineyards. Bit bonkers, but no problem.

And anyway, not *all* mobos are gin palaces. I've hardly got any gin really, apart from the stuff i keep in case anyone says "hoho well since we're on a gin palace i willl have a gin and tonic!!" and then me not having any wd make me look a bit of a tw&t.

In complete contrast - ours is wine palace
 
Re: Hah! an obvious ploy

You're right I haven't been a decent sized Mobo. But, a boat is a boat.

I argued with you once that luxury was not required, but you changed my attitude, when you spend so so much money on a boat there should be a wow factor. Even on a saily boat, why are we putting up with dank conditions, yet things are changing. Unfortunately many things that I have mentioned in my rant can equally apply to modern AWB's from Yurope.

But I disagree with a couple of your points, deckwork although not prevalent on a mobo might be as important. What if you get a riding turn on the anchor winch or need to connect a tow rope in a rising F6.

You may not need to be there regularly, but it only takes a single occasion to fly off the deck. It also seems very wasteful to have the majority of outside space on a boat so inaccessible.

I agree that boats are used differently, but we all still need to eat and drink. Why should a Mobo be forced to head for marina berths when cruising, you can not physically stay at sea for too long as you have to re-fuel, but, how long do you think the fairyline boat could stay at anchor and be self sufficient.

Isn't that what boating is about, escape.

I will never understand 3 massive televisions on a 38ft boat, do you not talk to each other, play cards or read a book. In fact I would suggest your average Mobo is turning into the ultimate playstation, for people who can not entertain themselves.

Ok, sweeping generalisation and I really am not trying to insult anybody ok. I am not a raw gritty sailor, I like my gizmo's around me, I even have an 8" TV. But I also like the fact, at the boat we talk, share more, play games etc. Mobo seems to try and bring your living room along where you just carry on life the same but in a different location.

Yes please, I would like a trip on Diana II. Or any other PB if people want me to eat my words. But I don't think I will!
 
Re: Hah! an obvious ploy

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Seems someone has far too much time on their hands! Search for a life mate!

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