MIRABELLA V AGROUND!!

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Here's one courtesy of tcm contact, still from yesterday afternoon, judging by the waves. This is taken kind of from entrance to beaulieu marina, looking towards SSE direction

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Re: Hm

think they is more like a cqr but without the floppy head?

There was a bloke in the pub last week, he said he was skipper of worlds biggest yot and I sold him one of my patent floating anchors.

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wanchor wotch

Problem diagnosed ... skipper asked for an anchor watch ..... just as the tarts embarked ?

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Re: Hm

Yes, Like Bruce they belong to the ray family of anchors so as you say pretty similar. If look under "Stainless Steel">"Ray" on the site I gave it shows the anchor's shape quite well - I think the Bruces used on yachts (as opposed to for preset moorings, etc) are cast steel whereas these are, of course fabricated. Looks to me as if the Manson ones are not so "chunky" as a Bruce but been quite a while since looked closely at a Bruce.

Don't think I would like to have paid for Mirabella's ones, probably cost more than many peoples boats.

We carry 3 Manson anchors but, perhaps fortunately, they are ploughs and also a lot littler :-).

Regards

John

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Re: Latest pic

Mmm, looks a bit Photoshop that does. The foreground and the boat don't seem to be in scale. Try editing it a bit more

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Re: Bruce is OK

Well, what do the Aussies know making anchors, eh?

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Re: Latest pic

No Mike, it's real. Photoshop has been banned following some incidents in Norway :-) (apologies to Divemaster)

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Re: tosspots

Interesting comment in the torygraph from the rescue co-ordination centre

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Re: tosspots

Hmmm - often have sails up whilst anchored does it? From the piccie it looks like it must have gone aground going forwards - doesn't tally with dragging anchor??? More like ground tackle failure or grounded whilst underway.....

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Wind - wot wind!

Interesting that they say wind was only F2-3. I looked on xcweather last nite which has historical wind speeds and directions and that also showed only light winds. Mebbe there was more locally, obviously wasn't there!

Didn't I also see something about a hydraulic failure somewhere? If so still don't see how it could have lead to this grounding.

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Re: Wind - wot wind!

Hate to say it but the weather co-ordination centre was wrong about the wind strength. I'm not sure what time she went aground (does anyone her?) but around mid-day the wind got up to about F7 for an hour or so and it was only back at a 2/3 by about 6 last night. It also couldn't have been that localised as I was in Marina Baie des Anges ( 5 miles away) and it was still windy when I got home ...

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Re: tosspots

Read somewhere that one of the yachts in attendance pulled the stern around but was unanble to pull it off the rocks. might explain the picy if it was taken then?

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useless torygraph

This is typical. In the (fortunately) few times I have been closely involved with something that the press are reporting on, I've always found they never get any detail right. Same with this.

Villefranche sur mer is the next bay along, not this one. It was much more than F3 as the scan pic above shows and as anyone there will tell you. Strong current, there....perleeze!. And so on......



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Re: Wind - wot wind!

"and it was still windy when I got home"

Must have been a good lunch!! Or mebbe it wasn't so good?

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Correct !

Just a very 'rich' lunch. You cheeky git !!

Also I didn't see one boat leave the marina yesterday morning while I was there. One Sunseeker took a look and 180'd as soon as it saw the waves at the entrance. On principle that mobo'ers don't go out in SoF above F3 then QED = F4 ..

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Re: Wind - wot wind!

There are local wind effects (joking aside) along this coast which are completely unforecasted. We got caught by a full easterly gale in Port Grimaud for 2 days last year which did not appear on any forecast, local or otherwise, even issued that morning. We had another instance when we were zooming along in a following F4 when I suddenly saw a line of quite large waves ahead. As we crossed the line, the wind was suddenly howling into my face. I stopped, turned around and went back across the line of waves slowly - the wind was blowing in exactly opposite directions either side of the line. Never seen anything like it before or since
But any experienced Med skipper knows that, whilst most of the time the wind strength is never more than F3/4, there can be sudden changes in speed and direction occasionally. So, I would be very surprised if this grounding was caused solely by a lack of watchkeeping, more likely some kind of machinery failure

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size of her anchors

For anyone interested here are pics I took of mirabella on Saturday as she was rescued. This is pasted off scutbut forum, where there's a debate about whether MV's anchors are too small. Learner and I sailed around her and thought they looked tiny. Whadyou guys think?

First, two shots of anchor.
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Below are two pics showing the beautiful m5. What about windage on the rig? Learner and I thought how sleek the rig looked and how unchunky the mast. But nevertheless, with that height of mast (90m ish) plus stays as thick as your leg and a stack of furled foresails, there must be massive rig windage. In which case the anchors - which would look small relative to the hull if it were a mobo - seem even more undersized?

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Below is just a location shot, showing the rescue tug which had a line to M5's stern and was holding her on station. This shows the SE tip of cap Ferrat in background. It's a very short run to there, round the pair of headlands, and into Villefranche as tcm said.

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Anyone thinking of moving boat to Med, note weather - this was September 18 and we went swimming after these pics :-)



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Re: size of her anchors

Nice pix jfm, any idea wot the damage is to M5?

And yes that anchor looked tiny for a boat of that size.

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