Mermaid V's Perkins Sabre

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Mermaid V\'s Perkins Sabre

For the record, Port intrcooler knackered due to bad maintenacce on my part and the previous owners. Cores not checked and "O" rings not replaced for 7 years. Result, intercooler casting totally F****D.

Contact mermaid, told them the story. Not to worry new parts due in middle of next week. Monday comes, about 10:00 phone call from Chris at Mermaid. Parts in, and I can collect it or they will post it to me. I agree to collect yesterday (Wednesday). Get there parts all ready, paperwork sorted and loads of spare "O" rings and bits thrown in for free. Realy friendly service. Free stickers and burgee big smiles, plenty of good advice and deal done.

Just up the road is Perkins Sabre's. Hmm thinks I, friend has Sabre engines and I know his intercoolers haven't seen the light of day for years. I'll pop in ad get some "O" rings. Walk into reception where there is a huge spares desk. Receptionist phones for the spares man who turns out to be at lunch. No problem me and SWIMBO dive into nearest pub where to my astonishment she pays for lunch. Back to Sabre's. Parts man now available. he arrives looking and listens to my request obviously boored to tears and deeply offended at having to talk to somebody over the counter. Having nodded at my request Sabre's answer to Basil Fawlty meanders over to the leaflets on the wall, plonks one down in front of us and declaires that although this is the spares and parts counter they dont sell them. I'll have to go to Chichester.

Questions:
1. Does the receptionist know so little about the company? Why couldn't she have said they don't sell parts and saved me 1 1/2 hours?

2. Does Sabre know that the same dead heads that man their show stands actually work there and are not bought in bimbo's? This point asked bearing in mind that at Southampton they tried to sell us a pair of 300HP engines that don't actually produce 300HP. Quote " The sales literature is slightly misleading". Plan "B" was to offer an alternative of engines that were 6" too tall to go under the floor which they felt could be remedied by raising the floor 6-10" in the saloon.

3. Are their new products as crap as their service for the old ones?

Taking into consideration that they recently wrongly supplied the most expensive warning lights in the country as direct replacements for the ones in existing Sabre instrument panels (they were 5mm to big to go in the holes).

I have come to my personal conclusion that:-

Mermaid got it right. Good product, good knowledgeable staff and excellent service to back up the customer.

Sabre. Not even in the same race. What were once some of the best marine engines in the world are being reduced to a back street cowboy outfit by their own sales hype, sales representatives and customer aftercare.

Sabre managment beware. This is a market where customer after care, parts prices and product reputation counts big time. Take a look at some of the comments about Volvo on this forum then decide if that's the way you want to go. If it's not to be your future, start putting it right now because you are already well onto the slope.

Having said that I know there are some people in the Sabre dealerships that actually do know their stuff. But they are like brilliant stars in a dark night sky. We know they are there but we can't get to them.


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Re: Mermaid V\'s Perkins Sabre

Interesting post and mimmicks my experience of the two firms, Mermaid and Sabre probly account for 90% of Fairey boat engines.

"at Southampton they tried to sell us a pair of 300HP engines that don't actually produce 300HP" - yes, its about time something was done about this, you are refering to the Perkins phaser truck engine series, the 225 is 205, the 265 about 240 and the 300 about 260, they say this in their literature on their website but its hard to find. And you are quite right, at Southampton there was a big shiney blue engine, with a M300ti badge on it and a sign saying 300hp.

I guess its partly a reflection of the fact that Sabre is a small arm of a big corporation ie catapillar and perkins.

As you say a great pity.


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Re: Mermaid V\'s Perkins Sabre

Can't agree more, I've a pair of Ford Sabre's, Sabre wouldn't sell me any parts directly, what's more they weren't even interested!

Contacted Mermaid, they more or less fell over backwards to help me, even supplied a part which Sabre said didn't exist anymore.

It is a shame Sabre's got this attitude because in my opinion their units are superb, the've obviously become too big to care about their customers.

Well done Mermaid keep up the good work!!

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I have mermaids, my brother has them aswell, good engines, good engineering, great service, will customize new engines for you, chrome nuts etc and they are always friendly and fast. I wouldn't go elsewhere for any new engines of that type. I highly reccomend them to anybody. Dont know about sabre, they used to be good, but nowadays???

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Re: Mermaid V\'s Perkins Sabre

Colin, I have had exactly the same experience of Mermaids, they have never let me down.

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Re: Mermaid V\'s Perkins Sabre

This is exactly the experience we had when working on Clive Neighbours HT6-354.
Clive dealt with various parts agents, struggled to get any sense as regards what he wanted and several times got wrong items dispite faxing page of manual with picture and note saying this bit!
Only guy who got it right was GMS Medway.

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Same tale of woe. About a month ago contacted Sabre (main parts firm for perkins) to find out which starters I needed to replace the missing ones from a pair of range4 perkys. Not very interested bloke called Adrian looks up the engine numbers on database and tells me the engines were supplied without starters. "OK then", I ask, "What sarters should they have"? "Don't know, I'll have to ring you back" he says. You've guessed it. I'm still waiting for that call.

Piss-poor performance in my book.

Bill.

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Re: Mermaid V\'s Perkins Sabre

Try here for starters http:// http://www.springstarter.com/frameset.htm

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Re: Mermaid V\'s Perkins Sabre

Thanks Barry, but regarding the first link, Perkins are not japanese engines. The second one led to an unobtainable page. Still, it's the thought that counts.............:)))

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Re: Mermaid V\'s Perkins Sabre

I know perkins are not Jap lumps. If you look at the site you'll see that they do starters for nearly every engine thats made. I got one from them for a range rover and one for a bentley. They don't only do jap stuff. Funnily enuff Perkins is listed there too!

The other one should link through to spring starters.......just tried it it does work.

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Re: Mermaid V\'s Perkins Sabre

2nd links fine, just has 'two' many http's in it. just type it into your browser, or try this

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.springstarter.com/frameset.htm>http://www.springstarter.com/frameset.htm</A>

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Mermaids Rule OK!

Cannot agree more, Mermaids brilliant company to deal with.

Fully recommend joining the Mermaid Owners club for £15 a year which gives free advice line and 10% discount on parts.



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Re: Mermaid V\'s Perkins Sabre

Whoops, silly me. Yes, they do list Perkins but you have to look hard to find it. Brendan's right "two many" etc. I'd never heard of this type of starter. In fact if someone had described one to me I'd have said it was a "wind-up" :)) Interesting idea though. Could save on wiring and stuff.

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