capnsensible
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Ive been lucky then to not experience that. But theres time I suppose!
Marinas closing to visitors?
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NormanS
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Coincidentally, I just been talking on facebook (what a wonderful assest when properly used). He works in a UK marina.
Now this is what he thinks and is not marina policy. And Im the messenger, OK.
So, his job is to look after your boats. He is employed to do that and is a capable professional. You stay away, your boats will be safe. You go there and infect him and the other staff, your boat wont be looked after.
My yacht is in a Canarian marina. A 15 minute walk and there is some stuff on there I could do with. But I got no choice, we are locked down. And the marina staff are extremely good. Message ends.
I trust them and you dudes may be happier if you extended your trust to those who are working on your behalf and not indulge in fiddling whilst Rome burns. He is also concerned about his sister who is a very qualified nurse and working extra shifts. Makes sense to me to stay put. But the last is my opinion.
Stay safe.
Strangely, I get the impression that some people in countries which have taken the decision to "lock down" simply can't bear the thought that some of us have chosen to live in places where personal freedom is seen as more important.
I am quite prepared to limit my contact with others, but where I am, with a relatively sparse population, that's not difficult.
webcraft
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capnsensible
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You are not free to do what you like regarding spreading infection and I think you are heading for a big shock. One mans 'personal fredom' is another mans 'selfish arse'.
In my opinion.
stranded
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Maybe the solution for those who are special is to allow exceptions on condition they agree to be back of the queue for nhs hospital treatment.
NormanS
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Sadly, I think you are probably correct, but just remember that any lock down has nothing to do with saving lives. It is only to spread the disease over a longer time, so that our third class resource starved Health Service is not put under more pressure. What will be the mental and physical consequences of keeping people locked up in their homes for months?
Motor_Sailor
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So can you give us an example of a country with a first class health service that has enough critical care beds to cope with a rampant flu pandemic?
Perhaps cloud cuckoo land?
NormanS
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Well, I'm sure that you're just as capable as I am of using Google.
I looked at a list of the number of hospital beds per 1000 of the population of 40 countries.
The top was Japan, with 13.05. UK came in at 35th with 2.54.
Now I realize that merely comparing the number of beds available, is a very rough measure to compare health services, but 13.05 : 2.54 is a huge disparity. Maybe you would care to justify the difference?
Daydream believer
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Your tax bill perhaps?
Motor_Sailor
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You said " . . . any lock down has nothing to do with saving lives. It is only to spread the disease over a longer time, so that our third class resource starved Health Service is not put under more pressure".
So are you saying that Japan could let a flu pandemic run unchecked, with casualties increasing at an expenential rate and 13.5 beds per 1000 people would cope?
If it wouldn't, then even Japan would have to take measures to 'flatten the peak' in order that its intensive care beds are not overloaded, which means taking similar measures to save lives.
JumbleDuck
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You're missing my point again, which probably means I made it really badly. One last try: there are people who are very much at risk. As long as they stay completely isolated, the rest of us can't infect them.
The rest of us should also not be trying to infect each other, but that's a slightly different issue. If it helps, I completely agree with the idea of social distancing, I just don't think that means "stay in the house all the time", and neither does the government. I wouldn't be suprised if we move to that stage, though, perhaps locally and for short periods of flare-up.
JumbleDuck
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Ah, right, so we should all follow one rule because we are all the same and because the rule recognises that we are all different. Glad we got that sorted.
Blue Sunray
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The problem with explaining a relatively complex, dynamic and carefully nuanced public health strategy to the public, is that a significant number of them are so thick they just can’t understand it, one such evidently being our Norman
NormanS
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No, I'm not saying the words that motor sailor is trying to put in my mouth, and since you are stooping to personal abuse, I'm out of here. Goodnight and keep well.
Seven Spades
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My yacht is in a Canarian marina. A 15 minute walk and there is some stuff on there I could do with. But I got no choice, we are locked down. And the marina staff are extremely good. Message ends.
Stay safe.
You have a permanent berth, but are visiting yachts liable for berthing costs whilst "locked in" it seems to men that some might not be able to afford a long stay.
xyachtdave
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Yep, my winter berthing in Ramsgate ends at end of March, my self employment looking unlikely to last to the end of next week so I’m out of there as soon as strong Easterlies go, hopefully Tuesday.
Being on the monthly visitor rate of around £500 and stuck indoors looking out my window at my empty mooring (paid for the year) not appealing!
It does seem a lot of people haven’t got the hang of social distancing yet, I’m getting good at it.
1) Look grumpy
2) Don’t make eye contact
If they’re still approaching to engage in conversation a little too close for comfort...
3) ‘Social distancing, duck off!’
Seven Spades
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I find that some people don't get social distancing and invade my personal space and when I take a step back they take a step forward. I have started saying, "Don't come any closer in case I give you something".
It works every time.
It works every time.
capnsensible
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May be so. But there are no exeptions. Not sure some people understand this lockdown biz. No r No movements in or out of the marina for any reason. If a visiting boat turns up (rare unless they have been at sea for ages) then the police will be called and decide.
For all boats in the marina, no r no movements. No appeal.
Again it seems there is a type of person who feels that they are in some way special and the whole thing doesnt apply to them. Well if your Government decides to go the same route as the rest of the world, they should brace themselves for discovering they are as special as a donkeys starboard flip flop in a F9.
So to answer your question, affordable or not, the boat is stuck.
Joker
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He should have said, 'So why are you and your cameraman out on the streets?'
JumbleDuck
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I have had a persistent cough since Christmas. I get even more space now than my personality generally produces.