Lyme Bay - Pots

[wonkywinch]

No they sold it I believe.

Think you're right, last seen in the Itchen but now in Helford since 1st May.

Surprised Dom didn't make a video about the handover.

Ship CADOHA (Sailing Vessel) Registered in United Kingdom - Vessel details, Current position and Voyage information - IMO 0, MMSI 235118169, Call sign MWPQ3

 

[dunedin]

In a bit of odd "revenge", a couple of days ago i passed a large pot buoy moving at 6 knots in the opposite direction, struggling to break the surface.
Eventually concluded it must be dragging 200m behind the fishing boat that had just passed.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Pots marked with black plastic containers are the norm between Beaulieu and Lymington, a stretch of water many of us probably use when the tide is contrary. Tacking in there is a lottery if it’s cloudy, they are hard to spot. We picked one up on a waterstay a few weeks back, I had to cut it free. A very wet and unpleasant task.

 

[KevO]

Coming out of the Helford on a rather gloomy day I saw a large black pot marker a couple of hundred yards ahead. I had seen several the day before so it wasn’t unexpected. I gave the autopilot 10 to port but the pot stayed on the nose. Another 10, then another, still on the nose then 30 to starboard so I didn’t end up on the August Rock buoy. Then when the pot marker had also turned I realised it was actually the dorsal fin of a large basking shark.

 

[flaming]

Witnessed quite a staggering incident with a fisherman in the Solent over this last weekend.

We'd just finished our first race, but another class, circa 15 boats, was still coming down to the finish. The committee boat, and very large yellow inflatable buoy that defined the line had, by this point, been in the same place for over an hour. Other buoys marking the downwind gate were less than 100m away from the line. Ribs and boats who had just finished were milling about. In other words, it was a very busy bit of the solent.

There then appears a pot boat. Which starts it's pot laying run approx 2-300m downwind of the line, heading straight upwind through the line. Coming within a couple of boat lengths of the anchored committee boat whilst on autopilot with the sole person on board at the back of the boat handling pots. This despite the committee realising what was going on and sending the mark laying rib over to suggest that this wasn't a good place to lay pots at this moment. From our vantage point it was clear that the rib was met with abuse.
Oh, and the pots were basically invisible small blue things.

 

[lustyd]

We’ve yet to meet our first pot marker, but we did catch this a few hours south of Kinsale. Needless to say, it stalled the engine almost immediately.

 

[ylop]

Flaming - who controls the arrangements for racing in those waters? Is it like the Clyde where you need to agree with the HA? If so will a race team who had a conflict with another water user report that back to the HM?

 

[flaming]

Flaming - who controls the arrangements for racing in those waters? Is it like the Clyde where you need to agree with the HA? If so will a race team who had a conflict with another water user report that back to the HM?

I assume VTS have an input, but I honestly don't know.

 

[DJE]

Flaming - who controls the arrangements for racing in those waters? Is it like the Clyde where you need to agree with the HA? If so will a race team who had a conflict with another water user report that back to the HM?

Western Solent is outside the limits of the Ports. Eastern Solent and eastern approaches are within the limits of Southampton and Portsmouth ports. There has been a legal requirement in Portsmouth for years for pots to be marked with (flags IIRC) and the name of the boat which laid them. It doesn't seem to be enforced.

I don't know of any requirements for coordinating racing courses with other port users, but there are notices to mariners covering the biggest racing events. It seems to me that the general fleet racers lay their courses to suit wind conditions shortly before their starts.

Solent Cruising and Racing Association advises keeping race courses clear of the main shipping channels where possible.

 

[Seven Spades]

What does IIRC stand for?

 

[flaming]

What does IIRC stand for?

If I recall correctly it stands for

"If I recall correctly".

 

[Lucky Duck]

Back to Lyme Bay and there was one pot marked with the reflective balloons as usually sold for birthday and hen parties, etc.

 

[justanothersailboat]

ok that's weird. That's one thing I've definitely never seen.

 

[ylop]

Back to Lyme Bay and there was one pot marked with the reflective balloons as usually sold for birthday and hen parties, etc.

Interesting - was it easier to see? Does the foil show up on RADAR? Assuming of course it hadn’t just got tangled in the actual bouy?

 

[Lucky Duck]

It was quite conspicuous in the sunshine but could easily be confused with them just being a bunch of balloons which had been blown out to sea

 

[rotrax]

A couple of years ago we saw a stroppy fisherman completely flumoxed by another vessel.

The Trinity House Buoy Maintenance vessel was working. He went well inshore to the -IIRC- Bull Cardinal Mark and started work.

We heard on 16 "'Ere-your right on my trawling run mate-can yer move away?"

The reply was clear, concise and to the point "We are Trinity House servicing the Cardinal mark. We are working too. I suggest our job is more important than yours, so perhaps YOU should adjust YOUR course!"

Which they did...........................

 

[RunAgroundHard]

The Scottish seem to do a lot of things better than the English it is sad to say (as I live in England).

Good to say If one lives In Scotland.

The UK is a fallacy perhaps.

Creel marking: guidance

Well, the guidance in Scotland is not always followed. In fact, my experience suggests it is not followed on the West Coast of Scotland at all, as this BlueMoment post, Black Lobster Pot Markers, from last year suggests. In 2018 we also had a bottom dredging fishing boat wreck the sea bed in a protected zone; fishermen in Scotland have their share of bad practises.

Not sure if the RYA has any update from this post lobster-pots

 

[Cerebus]

A couple of years ago we saw a stroppy fisherman completely flumoxed by another vessel.

The Trinity House Buoy Maintenance vessel was working. He went well inshore to the -IIRC- Bull Cardinal Mark and started work.

We heard on 16 "'Ere-your right on my trawling run mate-can yer move away?"

The reply was clear, concise and to the point "We are Trinity House servicing the Cardinal mark. We are working too. I suggest our job is more important than yours, so perhaps YOU should adjust YOUR course!"

Which they did...........................

Sounds like the “lighthouse against US warship” YouTube clip or joke.

 

[oldharry]

That far out, unmarked pots may not be what they appear..... may have been a much more lucrative 'catch'. Its a dodge going back centuries in the smuggling fraternity.

 

[Wight Leopard]

That far out, unmarked pots may not be what they appear..... may have been a much more lucrative 'catch'. Its a dodge going back centuries in the smuggling fraternity.

Yes; I've wondered about that but it seemed strange to place so many in close proximity where they'd be more visible to the law as well. I've also come across isolated buoys in mid-channel, even in depths of 100m or so. I'm reasonably sure that buoys laid for scientific measurements would be distinctly marked so unless there's some sort of 'super-lobster' at those depths I'm not sure what else they could be marking.