Lithium. Really?

[Chiara’s slave]

My Peugeot diesel can do closer to 700 miles on a tank. I have never stopped for a coffee. If I am traveling long distance we stop for a meal.

I’m 65. When I was 23 I was driving from near Exmouth to the north coast of Scotland for the weekend. I have neither the endurance nor the stupidity to do such a thing these days. I take my breaks every 2 or 3 hours thanks. OH has 2 hip replacements that need a good wiggle about too. The EV has made no difference to us in that respect. We can do our 250 miles and have some food or some such. It takes nearly 4 hours to do that. Taking a 40 min break is no hardship. Yes, my fastest charging is way faster than the 1st gen EVs. Even if it were now three times as fast, it would make little difference to us. Obviously we choose where we stop, maybe we wouldn’t have to do that.

 

[Bouba]

I’m 65. When I was 23 I was driving from near Exmouth to the north coast of Scotland for the weekend. I have neither the endurance nor the stupidity to do such a thing these days. I take my breaks every 2 or 3 hours thanks. OH has 2 hip replacements that need a good wiggle about too. The EV has made no difference to us in that respect. We can do our 250 miles and have some food or some such. It takes nearly 4 hours to do that. Taking a 40 min break is no hardship. Yes, my fastest charging is way faster than the 1st gen EVs. Even if it were now three times as fast, it would make little difference to us. Obviously we choose where we stop, maybe we wouldn’t have to do that.

In fact the opposite happens…you get the warning from the car that if you don’t unplug and move you will be fined…so you have to rush back…..or raise your charge limit

 

[lustyd]

Time might well come when an interfering government imposes that on us all.

We’re already at the point where government have forgotten the purpose of roads. If you start in cornwall your first imposed 2 hour coffee break would be within the crazy 20mph limits not far from home.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

For the period I had boats my nearest berth was 200 miles away furthest about 245. On Fridays sometimes lunchtime sometimes evening I would load up the car to make the trip which could be anything from 3 hours to 5 hours I did the journey always in one hit.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

For the period I had boats my nearest berth was 200 miles away furthest about 245. On Fridays sometimes lunchtime sometimes evening I would load up the car to make the trip which could be anything from 3 hours to 5 hours I did the journey always in one hit.

I’d push to complete 245 miles too. And comfortable, range wise. As long as there was a plug of any sort, we’d still do that. It takes about 36 hours to charge on a 13 amp, if you’re nearly empty. But who cares if you’re not even there. We rarely use our 7kw charger at home.

 

[geem]

We’re already at the point where government have forgotten the purpose of roads. If you start in cornwall your first imposed 2 hour coffee break would be within the crazy 20mph limits not far from home.

I had to get from Falmouth to Manchester for a hospital appointment. I looked at trains planes, hire car and coaches. They all take forever. In the end I opted for the plane. The bus to Newquay took for ever. But flying home was the same price as the train. Stupid.
We are now in the Canaries. Buses are frequent, clean, hybrid types. They are also incredibly good value.
What has gone wrong in the UK train sport system.
Cornwall may as well be in Spain.

 

[geem]

I’d push to complete 245 miles too. And comfortable, range wise. As long as there was a plug of any sort, we’d still do that. It takes about 36 hours to charge on a 13 amp, if you’re nearly empty. But who cares if you’re not even there. We rarely use our 7kw charger at home.

If i ever go EV, I will make sure I have covered the barn roof with solar first.
My friend in Tenerife can plug in a fill up for free if he drives the 3 miles to the wind turbine farm. He sits there for 15mins on the internet

 

[Bouba]

If i ever go EV, I will make sure I have covered the barn roof with solar first.
My friend in Tenerife can plug in a fill up for free if he drives the 3 miles to the wind turbine farm. He sits there for 15mins on the internet

If the law ever permits it...one day your Tesla will make the journey by itself...although I don’t know who will plug it in for you

 

[lustyd]

I had to get from Falmouth to Manchester for a hospital appointment. I looked at trains planes, hire car and coaches. They all take forever. In the end I opted for the plane. The bus to Newquay took for ever. But flying home was the same price as the train. Stupid.
We are now in the Canaries. Buses are frequent, clean, hybrid types. They are also incredibly good value.
What has gone wrong in the UK train sport system.
Cornwall may as well be in Spain.

Yes when we did Scotland to Reading it was around £400 for two on a train that took 8 hours. Utter madness.
We hired a car getting back and had a month of “fun” as they tried to screw us with false damage charges. Cicar by contrast have never taken a deposit or looked at the car on return, and that’s with rates a quarter of Enterprise!

 

[geem]

Yes when we did Scotland to Reading it was around £400 for two on a train that took 8 hours. Utter madness.
We hired a car getting back and had a month of “fun” as they tried to screw us with false damage charges. Cicar by contrast have never taken a deposit or looked at the car on return, and that’s with rates a quarter of Enterprise!

€30 per day here for a car

 

[lustyd]

€30 per day here for a car

Cicar is one of my favourite companies of any type. They’ve nailed the pricing and the service in every way. In Blighty I’m considering buying a car for the winter just to avoid the rental companies.

 

[geem]

Cicar is one of my favourite companies of any type. They’ve nailed the pricing and the service in every way. In Blighty I’m considering buying a car for the winter just to avoid the rental companies.

Fortunately we still have property at home. We have 2 cars in the barn. I have no idea when we will drive them again

 

[Chiara’s slave]

If i ever go EV, I will make sure I have covered the barn roof with solar first.
My friend in Tenerife can plug in a fill up for free if he drives the 3 miles to the wind turbine farm. He sits there for 15mins on the internet

My workshop. Same on the other pitch, 3kw each side, wired to a dual mppt inverter. There’s a LiFePO4 battery too, but excess goes in the cars

 

[Bouba]

My workshop. Same on the other pitch, 3kw each side, wired to a dual mppt inverter. There’s a LiFePO4 battery too, but excess goes in the cars
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Does the water butt provide hot water ?

 

[Chiara’s slave]

No, but Mrs C likes to water the rhubarb.

 

[seeSimon]

I was in Cuba 8 years ago and they had electric scooters in abundance. No number plates on them. Clean and silent. They were full size scooters looking very much like an old Vespa. I am surprised we don't see these on British roads. They make so much sense, apart from the sh1tty UK weather

Scooters out of town proved to be no good for me. My 125 Yam was sold after 6 months back at home on cornish lanes. It had been ideal city centre transport.
Hereabouts its not just the weather...Sh1tty being the state of the roads, including actual cow sh1t/slurry, mud etc....and the overhanging brambles and bushes on the hedges too.

I was recently admiring those "electric Vespas" in Greece. Not limited to use by youngsters, many old blokes using them for nipping about too.

 

[seeSimon]

Due to the current tax regime. That can and most certainly will change as government want more money. It’s an easy target, one of the reasons electric scooters were so quickly dismissed despite being the obvious solution.

Agree...alter the focus of the highly beneficial financial regime, and perhaps 75% of these EV evangelists would move on...just as they typically did from big petrol saloons to German "performance diesels".
....oh, and weren't we told that those same performance diesels going to "save the planet" too, despite offering more usable performance (in a heavier vehicle) than many of the petrol cars they replaced?

Most of us still remember when the only diesel Merc we'd see was a taxi!

 

[zoidberg]

"I see a little silhouetto of a man
Scaramouche, Scaramouche..."

 

[Bouba]

Repeat after me...what is Europe’s best selling car ?
Tesla Model Y Becomes Best Selling Car in Europe With 26K Units Sold in Sept - Vehiclesuggest

 

[newtothis]

Repeat after me...what is Europe’s best selling car ?
Tesla Model Y Becomes Best Selling Car in Europe With 26K Units Sold in Sept - Vehiclesuggest

Repeat after me... what is the context?

In September 2025, approximately 1.1 million passenger cars were sold in Western Europe.