Life jackets

[Refueler]

DB : "I do not see how that changes anything."

Post #10 - the guy apparently thinks that he will sail in freezing waters ? If so - then LJ is the least of his worries !

 

[roa312]

DB : "I do not see how that changes anything."

Post #10 - the guy apparently thinks that he will sail in freezing waters ? If so - then LJ is the least of his worries !

Your repeated claim that life jackets aren’t needed in freezing temperatures is frankly baffling (stupid). I didn’t feel the need to respond in detail, as I hoped others reading the thread would see the flaw in that reasoning on their own. But just for the record: yes, I do sail in winter and in freezing conditions - so once again, you’re incorrect.

I originally shared some personal experience with inflatable life jackets, hoping it might lead to a meaningful exchange or debate. I'm not saying inflatables are useless as clearly they have their place - but I think it's reasonable to highlight the limitations or problems I found based on actual use. I'm not going to comment further on your replies though so feel free to let out all the nonsense you want.

As a side note: I noticed the business link in your forum footer - the one leading to a business site built with Mobirise freeware, with a MS Paint-style logo and making reference to all of your global office locations - none of the links on that site work. Just thought you’d want to be aware, since it's attached to all of your posts.

 

[Refueler]

Your repeated claim that life jackets aren’t needed in freezing temperatures is frankly baffling (stupid). I didn’t feel the need to respond in detail, as I hoped others reading the thread would see the flaw in that reasoning on their own. But just for the record: yes, I do sail in winter and in freezing conditions - so once again, you’re incorrect.

I originally shared some personal experience with inflatable life jackets, hoping it might lead to a meaningful exchange or debate. I'm not saying inflatables are useless as clearly they have their place - but I think it's reasonable to highlight the limitations or problems I found based on actual use. I'm not going to comment further on your replies though so feel free to let out all the nonsense you want.

As a side note: I noticed the business link in your forum footer - the one leading to a business site built with Mobirise freeware, with a MS Paint-style logo and making reference to all of your global office locations - none of the links on that site work. Just thought you’d want to be aware, since it's attached to all of your posts.

Where did I say that LJ's are not needed in freezing conditions ? My posts were in 'awe' of your biased opinions - which TBH I also made reply to, stating actual design elements of LJ's ...

Anyone with a single brain cell would know that in such cold conditions - a traditional fixed bouyancy LJ is the better item - its why ships carry standard fixed bouyancy LJ's .... as they operate in all conditions. Plus of course easier to maintain.

Just so you are aware : I was a Certficated Senior Ships Officer ... spent years inspecting and maintaining Life Saving gear incl LJ's on ships. On leaving ships - I have been Regional Manager of International Marine Inspection Companys, then created and owned my own International Inspection Company's.
The present company I own and operate - the Website you so clearly like to denigrate - has no real purpose as my business is by referral. My name and Company are well placed in the International market and having no need of the website - it was never progressed from a trial test in Mobirise - original intention was to engage a local Website creator who flies model airplanes with me - to take the idea and create online a better site.
But as I say - its not needed - so there you go.
Its at the foot of my posts - yes - so what ? If you have business for me - you would know how and where to engage my company's services ..

The number of Offices around the world my company operates has increased significantly since that 'website' was tested.

There's being 'clever' and there's being smart ....

 

[SC35]

Whilst not wishing to dispute your experience, I suspect the reason for fixed buoyancy life jackets is that most ship’s passengers won’t be wearing them to dinner (plus the maintenance aspect), so being bulky is not so much of an issue.

Inflatable lifejackets are much more convenient to wear for the average leisure boater.
Plus they look waaay cooler.

 

[Daydream believer]

DB : "I do not see how that changes anything."

Post #10 - the guy apparently thinks that he will sail in freezing waters ? If so - then LJ is the least of his worries !

Well I said that "most of us do not sail in freezing waters"- I think that is a fair comment
What he needs is a crash helmet so he can bounce off the ice.

 

[ducked]

Well I said that "most of us do not sail in freezing waters"- I think that is a fair comment
What he needs is a crash helmet so he can bounce off the ice.

Most of you sail in bloody cold water though, since I understand this is mostly a UK based site

When and if I get back to Scotland and get my boat in the water I suppose I'll have to make at least a token life jacket gesture, though I'd think it'd be a/the safety harness that is more likely to keep me alive.

Any recommendations for a inherently-more-likely-to-function-fixed-buoyancy type, or should I just get an inflatable on the assumption that it doesnt really matter if it works anyway?

Broken ones should be vety cheap, especially if they've been knifed.

 

[Refueler]

Whilst not wishing to dispute your experience, I suspect the reason for fixed buoyancy life jackets is that most ship’s passengers won’t be wearing them to dinner (plus the maintenance aspect), so being bulky is not so much of an issue.

Inflatable lifejackets are much more convenient to wear for the average leisure boater.
Plus they look waaay cooler.

Why only Passengers .... that is only a segment of the Shipping ..

Fixed bouyancy are standard on all ships ... for :

1. They need no maintenance other than stowed away in good order
2. No expiry dates as they have no gas / mechanical actuators
3. They can suffer damage in the real life emergency and still deliver
4. Temperature / weather conditions do not affect their use.

 

[SC35]

I’m not disagreeing with the above, but the OP is not on a ship.

 

[Refueler]

I’m not disagreeing with the above, but the OP is not on a ship.

My reply was to you ... post #24 ....

OP's had his own reply from me !!