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Bought the above today for only £2.99. 65 pieces. These are the one's that are trapped with pliers without having to strip the wire. Not liked by some on here.
Also noticed an electric oil pump . Previously reviewed on these forums. I think £12.99.
 

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i prefer the wago type connectors, easy to disconnect and reuse, so i have to strip a bit of wire first, but thats easy peasy once i find my wire strippers, thats the hard part
 

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i prefer the wago type connectors, easy to disconnect and reuse, so i have to strip a bit of wire first, but thats easy peasy once i find my wire strippers, thats the hard part
As it happens a day or two ago Facebook showed me a video clip of someone constructing a wire stripper from the blade from a basic pencil sharpener screwed onto a wooden clothes-peg! I think I prefer my multiple wire strippers of several different designs...
 

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i prefer the wago type connectors, easy to disconnect and reuse, so i have to strip a bit of wire first, but thats easy peasy once i find my wire strippers, thats the hard part
I wonder if you ordered a brand new yacht, if the electronics would have connectors like the Wago and other new age stuff. I don't know how I would feel about it. Personally I'm happy to use them for an odd job on a small yacht but uncertain about a total rewire.
 

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I wonder if you ordered a brand new yacht, if the electronics would have connectors like the Wago and other new age stuff. I don't know how I would feel about it. Personally I'm happy to use them for an odd job on a small yacht but uncertain about a total rewire.
i wouldnt do a new installation of anything with them, but for quick jerry rig ups they are perfect.
i believe they have started using them in household electrical installations
Wago ABOX 221 IP65 32A 5-Terminal Weatherproof Outdoor Junction Box 110mm x 110mm x 67mm - Screwfix
 

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As it happens a day or two ago Facebook showed me a video clip of someone constructing a wire stripper from the blade from a basic pencil sharpener screwed onto a wooden clothes-peg! I think I prefer my multiple wire strippers of several different designs...
i suspect it was an indian or west asian, involving the use of a glue gun somewhere in the construction.
 

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i suspect it was an indian or west asian, involving the use of a glue gun somewhere in the construction.
Not in the brief video, nor any racist comments from me. As I said, pencil sharpener blade screwed onto peg, though whether the original tiny bolt was replaced with an equally tiny wood screw I'm not sure. I'm keen on hot-melt glue guns, myself...
 

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i wouldnt do a new installation of anything with them, but for quick jerry rig ups they are perfect.
i believe they have started using them in household electrical installations
Wago ABOX 221 IP65 32A 5-Terminal Weatherproof Outdoor Junction Box 110mm x 110mm x 67mm - Screwfix
I had a flat rewired a couple of years ago and wago's were used. I've used them at home and on the boat with no problems over a few years now. Real big advantage is that it is easy to remove a wire to check for cable faults.
 

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As it happens a day or two ago Facebook showed me a video clip of someone constructing a wire stripper from the blade from a basic pencil sharpener screwed onto a wooden clothes-peg! I think I prefer my multiple wire strippers of several different designs...
There is a good type of cable stripper which works a bit like that.
It's particularly good for removing the outer sheath from multi-core cables without damaging the insulation of individual cores.

https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/prod...rxV_XoFTDWdhYACdLUqUffM2PQIOUZQQaAgJPEALw_wcB

Probably cheaper than a pencil sharpener?

There are variations which adjust the depth of cut or are customised for particular cable, e.g. some co-ax.
The official one for some posh co-ax is somewhat more expensive.
 

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On boats I think the standard is either crimped terminals or screws with the compression plate. Lots of these other things are designed for single core wire not flexible multistrand which is all that should be used on a boat. I think they are fine for some low priority stuff in the right circumstances. I stick with crimped on heat shrinked terminals and screws for most applications. Everything else I have seen used on my (admittedly damp) boats have been problematic and prone to corrosion and poor connections. Ideally you should check connections at maximum load with a thermal camera of heat gun to check for the tell tale heat of poor connections.
 

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There are variations which adjust the depth of cut or are customised for particular cable, e.g. some co-ax.
The official one for some posh co-ax is somewhat more expensive.
I don't know posh co-ax but my favourite stripper for not damaging the copper braid is this adjustable one:
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On boats I think the standard is either crimped terminals or screws with the compression plate. Lots of these other things are designed for single core wire not flexible multistrand which is all that should be used on a boat. I think they are fine for some low priority stuff in the right circumstances. I stick with crimped on heat shrinked terminals and screws for most applications. Everything else I have seen used on my (admittedly damp) boats have been problematic and prone to corrosion and poor connections. Ideally you should check connections at maximum load with a thermal camera of heat gun to check for the tell tale heat of poor connections.
Wago is designed for multistrand wire plus solid core. Works very well with low wattage items but I'm not sure that I would use on my high power stuff on the boat, plus those cables are to big for wagos.
 

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Not in the brief video, nor any racist comments from me. As I said, pencil sharpener blade screwed onto peg, though whether the original tiny bolt was replaced with an equally tiny wood screw I'm not sure. I'm keen on hot-melt glue guns, myself...
i dont believe i said anything racist in commenting about indians or west asians
 

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i prefer the wago type connectors, easy to disconnect and reuse, so i have to strip a bit of wire first, but thats easy peasy once i find my wire strippers, thats the hard part
Things have certainly moved on. It used to be that the only way to go was soldering. I suppose boating has jumped onto the back of the 12v automotive industry and we are gaining from it . I have found that it's worth using reputable sources for connectors .
 

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The wire costs a lot of money and is difficult to replace. The connectors are cheap and easy to replace. I want a watertight/airtight seal on the end of my wires which is what you get with the right crimp and shrink. That way any corrosion will only be in the connector and these are easy to protect with a bit of spray. Wiring i ripped out had black corrosion going many feet as moisture wicked along the conductor which is encouraged by the slight heat cool cycle that wires undergoe. Most of these connectors are ok in houses and ok ish in boats but why not do it right first time for a tiny bit more effort. Crimps are cheap
 

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Wago connectors actually have remarkably good current carrying capacity for their form factor and I gather can now be used as permanent connections in household wiring i.e. they don’t need to be accessible after installation. Some of the cheap copies leave a bit to be desired though.
 

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Wago connectors actually have remarkably good current carrying capacity for their form factor and I gather can now be used as permanent connections in household wiring i.e. they don’t need to be accessible after installation. Some of the cheap copies leave a bit to be desired though.
OTOH, Scotchloks...

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