Labelling Clutches

Seajet said:
Dymo labels go brown after a year or two in ( British ) sunlight; ok and an easy cheap option as long as one is willing to replace them every so often.

I have to mention to the OP, how come - as I understand it - so many lines all the same ? More than half the battle is colour coding the lines, ' pull the red one ! ' beats looking at little labels.
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So you advise that I should change the control lines, bit expensive when five of them are Dyneema.
The polyester braid lines are white with blue (2), black, green, and blue/yellow flecks, you need good light to distinguish them. One Dyneema line is puce, the rest are all red, a previous owner probably got a bargain reel. I know which line is which by position even in the dark but my wife likes to have things labelled, she is much happier to 'ease the genny halyard' which she understands than to be told to 'ease the blue one' which both of us would regard as patronising. She considers it stupid that yacht control lines are randomly positioned and this boat is entirely different from our last which she knew. After a season with labelled controls she will have learnt the positions of each so that like me she can reach for it.
Our last boat had flecked lines based on Seldens coding with all the lines white, even the dyneema, the fleck varied by which sail it related to so the traveller lines and mainsheet were the same fleck colour but different thickness. Pretty silly. I have noticed that the strong solid colours seem to succumb to UV much faster than white, even up here in the rain.

I will investigate the purchase of the Brother printer and tape, thanks for the pointer. Gwlan, the Spinlock labels are neat but that price ?????
 
Little Grebe said:
Apologies, I hadn't followed your link.

The signature is part of old tub's sail number, no doubt it seemed a good idea at the time
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I see. So nothing to do with the capture of Baghdad/ Jacques Cartier’s expedition to Newfoundland/ Henry VIII’s Treasons Act! You had me wondering.
 
Seajet said:
I have to mention to the OP, how come - as I understand it - so many lines all the same ? More than half the battle is colour coding the lines, ' pull the red one ! ' beats looking at little labels.
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Agree with that. Each of our lines is completely distinct in colour from the others; they are on clutches labelled up with TZ tape; and the running rigging plan was thought out and planned out four-ish years ago when the whole lot was overhauled, so there is no problem with successive adjustments/upgrades/changes causing lines to move from one clutch to another. Resulting confusion factor= zero. Makes it hassle free to have guest crew on board; telling them either a name, or a colour, will always get them to the right clutch.

And almost all of them are dyneema!
 
PaulRainbow said:
I have a Brother P-Touch that uses "TZ Tape", an example here, looks to be pretty much everything proof and looks much better than Dymo tape.

http://www.labelzone.co.uk/tz-231-12mm-black-on-white-laminated-tape/p118
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Yes - I have a Brother labeller that uses TZ tapes that are UV resistant. Originally bought for labelling in the garden but my wife never uses it as it's usually on the boat! Excellent labels, I have some on the boom and other places on deck and they are still perfectly legible after 11 years. I use white letters on a black background and always round off the corners so they don't lift.
 
Saying you have a Brother P-touch is like saying you have a car. There are hundreds of models with a whole gamut of capability. Why not spell out which version you have?
 
Hoolie said:
Saying you have a Brother P-touch is like saying you have a car. There are hundreds of models with a whole gamut of capability. Why not spell out which version you have?
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In the same was as any old car will get you from A to B, any old P-Touch will print a label for your clutch. You have to look at the features and decide if you also want air-con or ABS.

I could tell you that i have a 1010, but that won't help much, as it's discontinued. Looking at the Brother website, if i was buying today i'd likely go for the PT-H110, as it has more fonts and font sizes etc.

https://www.brother.co.uk/labelling/ptouch-labellers/pt-h110

Cheap as chips : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brother-PTH110-Handheld-Labelling-Machine/dp/B01N5ID8FR
 
Sometimes devices can be found at Lidl . More importantly than source of device and model though is surely the tape used? As has been stated a size to fit the space on clutch assists but which colour combination works best ? Are there luminous tape versions which merit any additional cost? Any other tape features to look for ?
 
Hoolie said:
Saying you have a Brother P-touch is like saying you have a car. There are hundreds of models with a whole gamut of capability. Why not spell out which version you have?
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Because if the question is considering the merits of flying, versus taking the train, versus cycling, versus hiring a car, versus using Uber, saying "I own a car, and drive that" is quite sufficiently precise. Saying "I own a VW Passat" doesn't really add much - if the questioner decides that a personally-owned car is indeed the way he wants to make the journey, he can consider which one to buy based on his own needs, budget, and availability.

Pete
 
Seajet said:
Each to their own, but I do think each line should be a different colour; if all 4 each side on my boat were all the same rope I'd probably have to pause and think, and I've had the boat ( though admittedly not all the lines ) for 40 years, so I'd think it pretty unfair to inflict on crew, risking denied priveleges from huffy g/f or walking the plank with bloke chums ! :)
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Agree. On a new boat to me this year I had trouble trying to drop the genoa until I realised that I was pulling on the wrong halyard! Both red an white.
 
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