runswick2000
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last night's shout for Swanage Lifeboat was no great drama but was a clear example of how well different rescue assets can work together........
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Twister_Ken
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2 lifeboats, 2 CG teams, all to rescue 2 guys who didn't want to be rescued. Sounds bloody daft to me.
Total cost?
Total cost?
jimi
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Do the RNLI sort eberspachers?
Gunfleet
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Eberspacher shout...
Lifeboatmen not interested unless they can attend as a team, in a vehicle that costs a fortune, wear and use lots of expensive kit and make a jolly big fuss while they're doing it, bless them, every mother's son of them.
Lifeboatmen not interested unless they can attend as a team, in a vehicle that costs a fortune, wear and use lots of expensive kit and make a jolly big fuss while they're doing it, bless them, every mother's son of them.
BrendanS
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Re: Eberspacher shout...
When you're not exactly sure what you are facing (general public aren't great at communicating what the issue is) why send one observer to find out, only to find real rescue services are required, and the time wasted may have killed the person or persons involved.
I'd rather they turned up in force if I ever need help.
When you're not exactly sure what you are facing (general public aren't great at communicating what the issue is) why send one observer to find out, only to find real rescue services are required, and the time wasted may have killed the person or persons involved.
I'd rather they turned up in force if I ever need help.
Gunfleet
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Re: Eberspacher shout...
100% agree... but we must be allowed to smile at their enthusiasm.
100% agree... but we must be allowed to smile at their enthusiasm.
Lakesailor
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Re: Eberspacher shout...
That's the method the Mountain Rescue use.
Often we see reports where huge MR contingents rescue someone who's not really in peril.
Memorably last year more than 20 MR volunteers "rescued" a lady whose battery had gone flat on her wheelchair between Rydal Water and Grassmere.
That's the method the Mountain Rescue use.
Often we see reports where huge MR contingents rescue someone who's not really in peril.
Memorably last year more than 20 MR volunteers "rescued" a lady whose battery had gone flat on her wheelchair between Rydal Water and Grassmere.
Twister_Ken
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Re: Eberspacher shout...
Once heard mountain rescue described as Britain's fastest-growing sport.
Once heard mountain rescue described as Britain's fastest-growing sport.
BrendanS
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Re: Eberspacher shout...
It's not the mindset of the mountain rescue I knew, and sometimes despite best efforts, people aren't saved.
I was involve in mountain rescue to a small extent in late 70's early 80's, and I lost friends who were involved in rescues that went wrong, trying to help people in real trouble. Until you get there, you don't know what the problem is, so you send out resources. You may underestimate how many people it takes to find someone on a hill or mountain, even if the position has been reasonably accurately reported, and the reporter has given a reasonable representation of the actual issue, which is rare.
Maybe things have changed dramatically?
It's not the mindset of the mountain rescue I knew, and sometimes despite best efforts, people aren't saved.
I was involve in mountain rescue to a small extent in late 70's early 80's, and I lost friends who were involved in rescues that went wrong, trying to help people in real trouble. Until you get there, you don't know what the problem is, so you send out resources. You may underestimate how many people it takes to find someone on a hill or mountain, even if the position has been reasonably accurately reported, and the reporter has given a reasonable representation of the actual issue, which is rare.
Maybe things have changed dramatically?
Lakesailor
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Re: Eberspacher shout...
Mobile Phones have changed things dramatically.
People now report the simplest things as emergencies.
ie. The batteries have gone in our torch.
Mobile Phones have changed things dramatically.
People now report the simplest things as emergencies.
ie. The batteries have gone in our torch.
BrendanS
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Re: Eberspacher shout...
That's not a fault of the rescue services, more education of the people who rely on them to get out of issues that used to be down to you to help yourself out of?
That's not a fault of the rescue services, more education of the people who rely on them to get out of issues that used to be down to you to help yourself out of?
Lakesailor
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BrendanS
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Re: Eberspacher shout...
Good evidence for the requirement for training for fellwalkers and hillwalkers before they are allowed out then? Maybe licensing of them?
It parallels sea rescue services exactly?
Good evidence for the requirement for training for fellwalkers and hillwalkers before they are allowed out then? Maybe licensing of them?
It parallels sea rescue services exactly?
HoratioHB
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Re: Eberspacher shout...
And I sincerely hope they comply with the new laws regarding hillwalking and drinking alcohol.
And I sincerely hope they comply with the new laws regarding hillwalking and drinking alcohol.
Lakesailor
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Re: Eberspacher shout...
I haven't noticed any rules re: taking 14 month-old children up Scafell Pike in winter. So that's still OK then.
Youngest Person Rescued From Fells
I haven't noticed any rules re: taking 14 month-old children up Scafell Pike in winter. So that's still OK then.
Youngest Person Rescued From Fells