jac
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The chilled wee of Vikings.
Of course when it's made in the uk it's the chilled wee of people living in staines which is even worse.
Japs at it again
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The chilled wee of Vikings.
Of course when it's made in the uk it's the chilled wee of people living in staines which is even worse.
Seven Spades
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There is no such thing as international law. There is no Parliament and no elections. There are treaties and if you don't sign a treaty you are not part of it.
The Japanese are free to do what they like. All that can be done it to lobby them.
The Japanese are free to do what they like. All that can be done it to lobby them.
webcraft
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On the contrary, I think Sea Shepherd have shown that there is considerably more that a determined group with some resources can do.
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Bobobolinsky
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Yep blow up the tube and London buses.
Boat44
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Yup,
I'm with you. Also the reason I will never having anything to do with Iceland or Norway. Iceland were hunting some whales earlier this year that are actually on the endangered list.
Despicable behaviour.
Go Sea Shepard!!!!!!!!
bitman
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he, they are sailing the way we did as teenagers in ribs. lots of fun!
only this is a bit diferrent, with real big boats...
personally i'm against hunting whales but i think the solution lies in the laws and not playing bumper boats. this will go horible wrong the sooner the later.
also looking at the video not sure what they wanted to archive as they still needed to grab a warp, no preparation to me.
only this is a bit diferrent, with real big boats...
personally i'm against hunting whales but i think the solution lies in the laws and not playing bumper boats. this will go horible wrong the sooner the later.
also looking at the video not sure what they wanted to archive as they still needed to grab a warp, no preparation to me.
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fireball
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What they aim achieve in the short term is disruption to the mothership.
From the couple of episodes I have watched I gather:
The process is that there are several harpoon boats who go hunting and catch a whale - using the harpoon gun funnily enough.
They then bring that into the mothership where it is pulled up a ramp at the stern and processed.
The decks of the mothership have to be clean - hence the acid. Also by keeping a close watch on the mothership they prevent the transfer of any whale - thus disrupting the process.
From the couple of episodes I have watched I gather:
The process is that there are several harpoon boats who go hunting and catch a whale - using the harpoon gun funnily enough.
They then bring that into the mothership where it is pulled up a ramp at the stern and processed.
The decks of the mothership have to be clean - hence the acid. Also by keeping a close watch on the mothership they prevent the transfer of any whale - thus disrupting the process.
TradewindSailor
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned:
Two ships traveling in close proximity to each other will cause a suction effect between the two hulls and therefore can collide. Ship masters should know this and therefore should avoid close quarters maneuvering.
Two ships traveling in close proximity to each other will cause a suction effect between the two hulls and therefore can collide. Ship masters should know this and therefore should avoid close quarters maneuvering.
Tommyrot
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Supporting extremists is fine until they start "direct action" against something you support.
Anti-car protesters ramming cars off the road OK with everyone?
Or, how far is going too far?
Anti-animal testing protesters digging up your relatives bodies? That one has already happened....
Anti-car protesters ramming cars off the road OK with everyone?
Or, how far is going too far?
Anti-animal testing protesters digging up your relatives bodies? That one has already happened....
Sybarite
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Legal activity...???
They are hunting in a whale sanctuary.
They are signed up members of the IWC which committed to not whaling.
They are required to submit their research programme to the technical committee of the IWC. For a long time they didn't and, when they finally did, their programme was deemed without scientific value ie so-called research in areas which were already well known. They also concluded that for the research they intended doing, most of the results could be obtained without killing the whale and where killing was the only solution their programme required only 4% of the whales which they presently take.
I suppose you would have said that the Romans had the law on their side when they sacrificed the Christians in the arenas so one should leave them alone to get on with it....
At some point someone needs to take a stand. I would prefer the navies to do so but if there is not enough political will - or governments are afraid of economic reprisals - then good luck to Sea Shepherd.
Twister_Ken's reference to his anatomy is apposite.
PS I suggest you watch the Oscar-nominated documentary "The Cove" which shows the Japanese rounding up and killing an estimated 23000 dolphins each year in one little cove at Taïji in Japan. The Faroes pale into insignificance by comparison - but I do not agree with them either.
They are hunting in a whale sanctuary.
They are signed up members of the IWC which committed to not whaling.
They are required to submit their research programme to the technical committee of the IWC. For a long time they didn't and, when they finally did, their programme was deemed without scientific value ie so-called research in areas which were already well known. They also concluded that for the research they intended doing, most of the results could be obtained without killing the whale and where killing was the only solution their programme required only 4% of the whales which they presently take.
I suppose you would have said that the Romans had the law on their side when they sacrificed the Christians in the arenas so one should leave them alone to get on with it....
At some point someone needs to take a stand. I would prefer the navies to do so but if there is not enough political will - or governments are afraid of economic reprisals - then good luck to Sea Shepherd.
Twister_Ken's reference to his anatomy is apposite.
PS I suggest you watch the Oscar-nominated documentary "The Cove" which shows the Japanese rounding up and killing an estimated 23000 dolphins each year in one little cove at Taïji in Japan. The Faroes pale into insignificance by comparison - but I do not agree with them either.
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Sybarite
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"Like it or not, Japanese whaling is not actually illegal because they haven't signed up to any anti whaling treaty."
Yes they did. They didn't want to but Reagan said they would be excluded from the Alaskan fishing grounds if they didn't.
"they will end up in a collision sooner or later" The collisions are deliberate. The stated aim is give a glancing blow to carry away the derricks from which whales are suspended. They do not T-bone boats which would risk sinking them as the SM did to the A.Gil.
If the Japs did not hunt illegally Sea Shepherd would not hunt them.
Yes they did. They didn't want to but Reagan said they would be excluded from the Alaskan fishing grounds if they didn't.
"they will end up in a collision sooner or later" The collisions are deliberate. The stated aim is give a glancing blow to carry away the derricks from which whales are suspended. They do not T-bone boats which would risk sinking them as the SM did to the A.Gil.
If the Japs did not hunt illegally Sea Shepherd would not hunt them.
Sybarite
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The IWC's technical research commission (which governs whale research programmes) rubbished Japan's programme as well as its so-called findings. Nuff said.
Sybarite
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Couldn't open it but I presume it comes from the Oscar-nominated documentary " The Cove" at Taïji in Japan where they slaughter on average 23000 dolphins each year.
Incidentally these dophins are mercury rich with over 5000 times the authorised level. (2000ppm against 0.4 ppm max) Two Taïji councillors, at a risk to their own lives it was said, bravely obtained a prohibition on serving dolphin meat in the local school canteens.
Incidentally these dophins are mercury rich with over 5000 times the authorised level. (2000ppm against 0.4 ppm max) Two Taïji councillors, at a risk to their own lives it was said, bravely obtained a prohibition on serving dolphin meat in the local school canteens.
Sybarite
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The Japanese did sign it. Otherwise the Americans would have forbidden them fishing in Alaskan waters.
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Bosun Higgs
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Governments do have the power to stop them - just ban Jap car and electronics imports temporarily and see how quickly they will stop. Its about the only advantage we have as a huge net importer of everything
kesh
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crikey, this forums a bit mental.
anyway, just one point for my first post.
if you start calling people like this terrorists, it may make your case against them seem stronger, but it dilutes the word and the real terrorists benefit.
oh yeah, osama bin laden, he's with those treehugging whale saving guys, he can't be that bad.
anyway, just one point for my first post.
if you start calling people like this terrorists, it may make your case against them seem stronger, but it dilutes the word and the real terrorists benefit.
oh yeah, osama bin laden, he's with those treehugging whale saving guys, he can't be that bad.
