DJE
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Vessel finder is interesting this morning. If I was going to anchor overnight I think I might have switched off my AIS transponder.
Vessel finder is interesting this morning. If I was going to anchor overnight I think I might have switched off my AIS transponder.
In spite of envy and temptation I think they're wrong. If people start staying away overnight many of them will be travelling long distances and spreading CV from region to region.
Staying overnight away from home feels like dropping litter or graffiti to me - one or two people can justify it on the basis it makes little difference. If 10pc of the population take that view it's a massive problem.
Sailing-cruising isn't really the fastest way to spread anything and of course you have to use local facilities in a "dirty" manner. Not exactly the same as a caravan, reaching 300 miles a day stopping by every second public toilet...
Yes, I think the point of the holiday house / caravan / overnight on boat ban is not because spending the night somewhere particularly endangers the delicate locals more than going for the day but because it effectively rules out a lot of long distance travel.In spite of envy and temptation I think they're wrong. If people start staying away overnight many of them will be travelling long distances and spreading CV from region to region.
Yes, I think the point of the holiday house / caravan / overnight on boat ban is not because spending the night somewhere particularly endangers the delicate locals more than going for the day but because it effectively rules out a lot of long distance travel.
So why not just ban travel of more than a certain distance from home for leisure purposes? I was amazed when they lifted the travel restrictions completely.Unfortunately, whilst the government is trying its best to issue guidelines..............................All I am saying is that it's not rocket science to work it out and then act accordingly.
So why not just ban travel of more than a certain distance from home for leisure purposes?
The thing can never be successfully micro-managed in such a way.
One could drive exactly half the range of one's car's tank with food from the main home to a second-home, a caravan in a field by itself, a tent or a boat, just stay there for a week, then drive back on the rest of the tank - risk close to zero. Alternatively one could messily travel twenty miles away from home, spreading disease everywhere, and repeat the same hapless journey back home at the end of the weekend.
If you are a carrier, embarking in the Solent, you'll start showing symptoms before reaching Land's End and very likely run out of holiday time before hitting Milford - which is not less infected than Southampton anyway.I think the problem is 'overnighting'. Fewer people will do a long round trip drive for single day exercise activity than would for a weekend or longer. Banning overnighting reduces spread between regions. (I'm not saying that's the only reason.)
On the other hand, Germany has recently started allowing travel anywhere in the country, and they seem to know what they are doing a lot better than Boris and his entourage.Radius of travel has worked well in other countries where people have been restricted to their own municipality to limit virus transfer from high to low risk areas. I think unlimited travel within England could be a mistake as many won't be following personal distancing rules or isolating on a boat.
True. However, in Germany it's not typical that NRW residents (most infected part of the country) crowd in East-Germany this time of the year. Baltic beaches might become interesting in a couple of weeks though. Still, I think a general freedom to travel is the way to go for Britain too and protect specific areas if necessary. ie. landing on disease-free islands could be prohibited, etc.On the other hand, Germany has recently started allowing travel anywhere in the country, and they seem to know what they are doing a lot better than Boris and his entourage.
On the other hand, Germany has recently started allowing travel anywhere in the country, and they seem to know what they are doing a lot better than Boris and his entourage.
And what’s the problem about spreading CV-19 between regions? sounds worrying but is it really? Just suppose I am one of the 1 in 400 people who has CV-19 (& the much smaller proportion who is in the asymptomatic period) and being the outdoor type I chose to drive 200 miles to my boat, granted there is a risk I will spread it to others along the way or at the destination, but not once I am safely on the boat, nobody else is at risk then, the longer I stay aboard the better. Alternatively I do not drive to my boat but instead stay in my local area, getting exercise, going to Tesco & B&Q, sitting on the park bench etc, etc. So instead I will be infecting locals instead Including during the time I would have been safely isolated on the boat. Surely IF I am going to spread it I am better to spread it to regions where the incidence is low than where it is already high, so less chance of a second peak overwhelming the NHS, Cornwall here I come!I think the problem is 'overnighting'. Fewer people will do a long round trip drive for single day exercise activity than would for a weekend or longer. Banning overnighting reduces spread between regions. (I'm not saying that's the only reason.)
My son, who is a physio on a Covid ITU, buried one of his colleagues on Monday. She was only 30. STFAH. You might think the likelihood of being infected is low, but the impact can be horrendous.
True, but if it was the same report I saw then (a) it was two days after restrictions were lifted, which is nowhere soon enough to detect any effect and (b) it was cases, which is a useless as a comparator because it depends so much on who was tested and why.Recent reports say numbers have increased in Germany after travel restrictions were eased.
And it has more people dying than Devon. It's safer to stay east of the Tamar.Oh and Bluetack42. Keep away from Cornwall you aren't wanted!