Is a 27' sailing boat now too small and will not sell?

[porcupine]

Yeah, I'm sorry, I was replying to an old post with a video of a Colvic Watson. I took out the quoted part thinking that it would still show me as replying to that post, rather than the thread generally (seeing as each post has a separate reply button), but obviously not. The post I was attempting to reply to was, appropriately, by Colvic Watson, and is #35 in this thread. I reproduce it below just to save people the bother of looking.

+1 for video, it's a great way of making your particular boat stand out. We bought LK primarily because even though she was a long distance away we felt we'd already viewed her a few times. The video was well planned and entertaining but some duff sound at first.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jMtjpADGz7k

 

[geem]

If you really want to sell it, then list it on Feabay with a 99p start price and no reserve (and I'm not joking about the start price either, that's how you get the highest final bid).

Make sure it has a really good description and lots of really good photos though.

Only if you are prepared to sell for 99p

 

[Tam Lin]

Where has the advert gone on Apollo Duck, have you sold her?

 

[Bru]

I believe the OP sold his Sabre some time ago. This thread is dead

 

[Tam Lin]

I believe the OP sold his Sabre some time ago. This thread is dead

Doh! Thanks for letting me know. Should have looked at the original date not just recent posts! Still, glad he sold it.

 

[Bru]

Doh! Thanks for letting me know. Should have looked at the original date not just recent posts! Still, glad he sold it.

Me too 'cos it looks like we too will be selling a Sabre 27 next year :/

 

[Tam Lin]

Me too 'cos it looks like we too will be selling a Sabre 27 next year :/

Oh, that's a tease! You have not had Erbas long, why has she got to go?

 

[davidpbo]

If you really want to sell it, then list it on Feabay with a 99p start price and no reserve (and I'm not joking about the start price either, that's how you get the highest final bid).

That is certainly eBay's view but a lot of regular sellers think it is rubbish, you risk it going for a few £ss.

I tend to start things off at what I would be prepared to pay for them or say 10% below and hope there is more than one buyer interested to bid it up.

 

[Bru]

Oh, that's a tease! You have not had Erbas long, why has she got to go?

If all goes to plan we'll be living aboard six to eight months of the year within a couple of years and much as we love Erbas she just isn't quite big enough to be our home

The challenge will be finding a boat big enough (but not too big) that we like half as much as the one we've got

(And before anyone jumps in, yes, we could manage with Erbas as a live-aboard and if we had to we would for that matter but we'll have a one off opportunity when we downsize from the family home to a flat to buy something that will give us a bit more space and a few more creature comforts - not that Erbas is lacking in creature comforts but things like a shower, for example, and enough room for Jane to get away from me when she's had enough of me are desirable! We'd also like a three cabin layout so that we can accomodate friends and family without having folks sleeping in the saloon and, oh well, there's quite a long list really!!!!)

 

[Tam Lin]

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If all goes to plan we'll be living aboard six to eight months of the year within a couple of years and much as we love Erbas she just isn't quite big enough to be our home

The challenge will be finding a boat big enough (but not too big) that we like half as much as the one we've got

(And before anyone jumps in, yes, we could manage with Erbas as a live-aboard and if we had to we would for that matter but we'll have a one off opportunity when we downsize from the family home to a flat to buy something that will give us a bit more space and a few more creature comforts - not that Erbas is lacking in creature comforts but things like a shower, for example, and enough room for Jane to get away from me when she's had enough of me are desirable! We'd also like a three cabin layout so that we can accomodate friends and family without having folks sleeping in the saloon and, oh well, there's quite a long list really!!!!)

Boats get sold for all sorts of reasons and that is a really positive one. I hope your plans come to fruition. Good luck!

 

[Bru]

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Boats get sold for all sorts of reasons and that is a really positive one. I hope your plans come to fruition. Good luck!

Thanks!

 

[muyuu]

Maybe it's a side-effect of having moorings go more expensive. It makes sense to spend more in the boat and the market has shifted towards bigger and newer boats than that. I'd try to maximise my berthing investment I guess.

"Popular" sailing is slowly dying.

 

[Seajet]

Around my way - Chichester Harbour - our half tide moorings for boats which can take the ground are fuller than they ever been for years, so is Emsworth Marina which offers a lovely spot for shallower draft boats for lower prices than the premium marinas.

Moorings which were often ' dead man's shoes ' with huge waiting lists are now instantly available.

What with costs and the general economic downturn leading to less, financially savvy sailors, It didn't take Merlin to predict the price hikes at marinas seeing a trend towards more sensibly financed boats than big fin keelers in marinas...

 

[Bru]

Maybe it's a side-effect of having moorings go more expensive. It makes sense to spend more in the boat and the market has shifted towards bigger and newer boats than that. I'd try to maximise my berthing investment I guess.

"Popular" sailing is slowly dying.

Is it?

Not from where I'm sitting

I'm gazing out over about a hundred boats idly swinging to their moorings on a delightful sunny Saturday morning

All is calm and tranquil

In an hour and a half the trot boat will spark up and on a day like today it'll be flat out busy. The more so I suspect because the weather has taken an unexpected turn for the better

Of relevance to this thread is that the boats that get the most use, the ones I see people aboard most often, are the smaller boats in the 26 to 29 foot range. Followed closely by the thirty odd footers. The bigger the boat, the less you see of the owners it seems

 

[muyuu]

Is it?

Not from where I'm sitting

I'm gazing out over about a hundred boats idly swinging to their moorings on a delightful sunny Saturday morning

All is calm and tranquil

In an hour and a half the trot boat will spark up and on a day like today it'll be flat out busy. The more so I suspect because the weather has taken an unexpected turn for the better

Of relevance to this thread is that the boats that get the most use, the ones I see people aboard most often, are the smaller boats in the 26 to 29 foot range. Followed closely by the thirty odd footers. The bigger the boat, the less you see of the owners it seems

Because they are in paradisical beaches in the Med or in the Caribbean? ;-)

Yep well, maybe I overstated it a bit. But it does seem like in those places dominated by marinas, smaller boats make progressively less sense as their market is priced out. Maybe there's also a bit of a crowding out in places close to London commuting towns.

As for size, I've sailed my coworker's RM 890 twin keeler (29ft LOA) and what a lovely boat that is. It's not exactly cheap though. Now, after getting used to that kind of sailing, try going back to a Centaur or something of the sort.

Regards

 

[Bru]

Nope, they are in the paradise that is otherwise known as the River Couch in sun drenched Essex!

 

[Sybarite]

.....and enough room for Jane to get away from me when she's had enough of me are desirable....QUOTE]

Hmmm....

 

[Bru]

.....and enough room for Jane to get away from me when she's had enough of me are desirable....QUOTE]

Hmmm....

Ere', I resemble that remark!

 

[Lakesailor]

Only if you are prepared to sell for 99p

Items offered at low start prices on eBay often get lifted to more reasonable prices if your "friends" start bidding.

 

[duncan99210]

Only if you are prepared to sell for 99p

You put a sensible reserve in it. The low price gets folks to look at it in the first place. Putting too high a starting price puts people off much more than the note on the page of reserve not yet met.