Ipswich:New Cut velocity control barrier.

[squibber]

I have only seen this barrier up twice in 25 years. Once earlier this year as I was trying to leave and again at 0330hrs today. Beware as I have seen no advance warning of this and it is difficult to see in day light. I do not know when it will be lowered.

 

[Habebty]

Aren't there some big red flashing lights on the island when the barrier is up? Possibly

 

[sailorman]

Aren't there some big red flashing lights on the island when the barrier is up? Possibly

Hi Pete music tonight here

 

[WF36]

Has anyone got any pictures of it up? In the 23 years I have been alive I have never seen it up !

 

[squibber]

Aren't there some big red flashing lights on the island when the barrier is up? Possibly

Oh yes and they are easy to see at night. Not so easy in day light though especially when they are rarely needed so folks do not look for them. The barrier itself is virtually invisible.

pete

 

[squibber]

Hi Pete music tonight here

I am too old for that Besides I have to be at an AGM early tomorrow

pete

 

[squibber]

Has anyone got any pictures of it up? In the 23 years I have been alive I have never seen it up !

I couldn't photograph it this morning as it was dark. The only other time I have seen it in use I was too busy trying to turn the boat. The thing is very dangerous for locals as we have become used to it never being used. Outsiders will probably fare better as they will see it on their chart and look out for it. When I had to avoid it at short notice I was amazed to see only about 3-6 inches above the surface of the water and if the sun was in your eyes you would not see it nor the lights.

pete

 

[squibber]

I couldn't photograph it this morning as it was dark. The only other time I have seen it in use I was too busy trying to turn the boat. The thing is very dangerous for locals as we have become used to it never being used. Outsiders will probably fare better as they will see it on their chart and look out for it. When I had to avoid it at short notice I was amazed to see only about 3-6 inches above the surface of the water and if the sun was in your eyes you would not see it nor the lights.

pete

The barrier was up again at 0300hrs Monday. Until this year I had never seen it up and now I have seen it up 3 times. I believe it to be something to do with the Ipswich Barrier Act 2012 organised by DEFRA. It is available on google.

I have been fighting this since 2005 and I now have to go back to the High Court but it is looking bleak.

 

[Koeketiene]

The barrier was up again at 0300hrs Monday. Until this year I had never seen it up and now I have seen it up 3 times. I believe it to be something to do with the Ipswich Barrier Act 2012 organised by DEFRA. It is available on google.

I have been fighting this since 2005 and I now have to go back to the High Court but it is looking bleak.

I skimmed across all the legalese, but failed to find anything that would get me up in arms.

What in particular is it that upsets you so?

 

[sailorman]

I skimmed across all the legalese, but failed to find anything that would get me up in arms.

What in particular is it that upsets you so?

based in Debages marina / yard ????

 

[squibber]

I skimmed across all the legalese, but failed to find anything that would get me up in arms.

What in particular is it that upsets you so?

Well I was moored at Debbages and when they raised the barrier without notice I nearly ran into it. I radio'ed the Lock Master and he didn't know when it would be retracted either. I realised if I had been coming into my mooring I would have been shut out. If I had been returning on the ebb my keelboat would have fallen over as the water dropped. I sold that boat and gave up the mooring. These are rights I have fought for for years. S.125. 1913 Ipswich Dock Act gives the public the right to land or board a boat from/to Ship Launch Road and of course it is also the site of the Griffin Ferry which is also a right guaranteed under the same Act and the ferry will be destroyed. Unfortunately I missed the 42 day deadline to seek a JR and I had to go for the Deemed Planning Permission which has just been refused by the first Judge. Now I also have one coming up against MMO as they want to close a RoW in Ipswich Dock, which I only got re-opened 2 years ago, to allow the wood ship to be unloaded. That will probably entail another trip to the High Court in Birmingham:-( It is Christmas and I am studying law books instead of watching pretty girls getting legless and out of shape.
pete

 

[squibber]

based in Debages marina / yard ????

I sold my keelboat and gave up my mooring because of the barrier. Now I sail a dinghy and that will not sail in the New Cut because the unlawful flood walls have cut off the wind contrary to the 1837 Ipswich Dock Act. Such is life for someone just minding their own business when others want to build houses where there should be water.
http://ouripswich.blogspot.co.uk

pete

 

[squibber]

http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/mid_suffolk_high_levels_of_water_in_the_river_gipping_1_1752660
Not a mere coincidence then! Of course the Gipping will flood if the water cannot escape because the barrier is across it.

pete

 

[sailorman]

http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/mid_suffolk_high_levels_of_water_in_the_river_gipping_1_1752660
Not a mere coincidence then! Of course the Gipping will flood if the water cannot escape because the barrier is across it.

pete

Dagworth Dock will be flooded then

 

[squibber]

Dagworth Dock will be flooded then

Crikey, I haven't heard that mentioned for years. When my lot (Thorketil's sons) came here from Sweden over 1,000 years ago it was thought they may have reached that far. It is known they reached Rattlesden and Dagworth is close by. General opinion is my lot hung about locally as they landed at Nacton Shores and decendants were living there last time I was curious about my heritage. Thurkel the Tall captured Ipswich in 1006 and again in 1016 but then he fades from history.

pete

 

[sailorman]

Crikey, I haven't heard that mentioned for years. When my lot (Thorketil's sons) came here from Sweden over 1,000 years ago it was thought they may have reached that far. It is known they reached Rattlesden and Dagworth is close by. General opinion is my lot hung about locally as they landed at Nacton Shores and decendants were living there last time I was curious about my heritage. Thurkel the Tall captured Ipswich in 1006 and again in 1016 but then he fades from history.

pete

Lord Haw Haw stated that "They had successfully bombed Dagworth Dock"

 

[squibber]

Lord Haw Haw stated that "They had successfully bombed Dagworth Dock"

Ha ha. I seem to remember he announced they had sunk an HMS shore establishment too once I checked the barrier just after 2000hrs and two chaps were letting it down. Apparently it has been up all day because of worry about scour damage. There was no scour damage during the 150 years before the velocity control barrier but now there is scour damage. The New Cut has already been narrowed by 20-30metres and now they want to narrow it even more down to a mere 20metres.

 

[squibber]

Here is another reason why the Orwell and Gipping flood;
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ceg6YyvZQjFX0jKyMO27ltMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

SYH is built on the river bed and the river bed belongs to IBC but they probably don't realise this also belongs to them. I was around this area long before SYH was built and the whole are from the left hand bend in the river is a flood plain including Levington Creek. Stratton Hall was virtually on the the bank of the river. It is all the builing upon the flood plain that is causing the water to back up as far as Stowmarket. It isn't helped by SYH pumping their dredge waste into the river either. The water just outside SYH is now very shallow indeed.

http://ouripswich.blogspot.co.uk

 

[sailorman]

Here is another reason why the Orwell and Gipping flood;
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ceg6YyvZQjFX0jKyMO27ltMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

SYH is built on the river bed and the river bed belongs to IBC but they probably don't realise this also belongs to them. I was around this area long before SYH was built and the whole are from the left hand bend in the river is a flood plain including Levington Creek. Stratton Hall was virtually on the the bank of the river. It is all the builing upon the flood plain that is causing the water to back up as far as Stowmarket. It isn't helped by SYH pumping their dredge waste into the river either. The water just outside SYH is now very shallow indeed.

http://ouripswich.blogspot.co.uk

ABP alsd dump spoil in the area below clamp hse

 

[Lucky Duck]

The reason for depositing dredging spoil below clamp house and by the water ski area near SYH is to replace the material being "sucked" downstream by the dredged deep water channel at Felixstowe docks. As apparently that section of the river is deeper than it "should" be although it does get shallow very quickly if you leave the main channel.