Interesting old photos of the port and docks of London

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Yes; containerisation all but eliminated theft, minimised damage to goods through handling, gave a massive increase in efficiency and speed, reduced spoilage of chilled and frozen goods due to them being containerised door to door. A leap forward comparable to the development of powered flight or the internal combustion engine. Handballing mixed freight out of the tweendeck of a freighter is no way to conduct trade. The pictures are very evocative though.
 

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I wonder if the exhibition will show Jack Dash leading 60,000 dockers along the highway on strike.
Or if it will show dockers standing in a group waiting to be selected for work that day, or going home penniless if they did not get picked.
Kind of takes the romance out of it somehow. :(
 

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I wonder if the exhibition will show Jack Dash leading 60,000 dockers along the highway on strike.
Or if it will show dockers standing in a group waiting to be selected for work that day, or going home penniless if they did not get picked.
Kind of takes the romance out of it somehow. :(
Whenever I see a fine old cathedral I think of people being tortured and burnt at the stake. That takes the romance (if any) out of it!
 

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Speaking of, er, which, I was reading this just a few minutes ago -

Why the witch-hunt victims of early modern Britain have come back to haunt us
If only giving the innocent victims of past injustice acknowledgement that they were wronged (much they care) could extend to doing the same to current victims. Of course, it's easy to say "Our ancestors were wrong" than to admit we were wrong, because if we do that, we might have to get off our collective arses and produce something more than hot air to put things right.
 

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If only giving the innocent victims of past injustice acknowledgement that they were wronged (much they care) could extend to doing the same to current victims. Of course, it's easy to say "Our ancestors were wrong" than to admit we were wrong, because if we do that, we might have to get off our collective arses and produce something more than hot air to put things right.
You're right, but at least it's a start in the right direction.
 

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If only giving the innocent victims of past injustice acknowledgement that they were wronged (much they care) could extend to doing the same to current victims. Of course, it's easy to say "Our ancestors were wrong" than to admit we were wrong, because if we do that, we might have to get off our collective arses and produce something more than hot air to put things right.
NO. We do NOT "put things right" they were what they were & people should learn to live with it & celebrate all of our history. "Putting things right" is not the way. It just ends up with idiots throwing statues in the water daubing graffiti on memorials & trying to re write history. I suspect that just breeds contempt in the silent majority. Therefore, it is totally wrong in my view.
Of course we can change the way we act in the future, but that is for next generations to decide. But it is not for generations to start " putting things right" where thay cannot be.
 

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Visitors who venture south of the river may be interested in climbing stave hill in the woodland created on the filled in Russia dock which has at the top a cast map /model of the old docks on the rotherhithe peninsular.

Interesting to look around from that vantage point and compare what was there 50 years ago to what’s there now
 
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how to romanticise what was a dirty , dangerous and badly paid industry

It certainly had its warts, but it was also central to the character of the area, and to the lives and culture of the people there and around (including those I grew up with).

The images are also highly relevant to the memories - both good and bad - of many on this forum, and to our understanding of what we have gained and what we have lost in the culture and technology of today.

If you are not capable or willing to see both the bad and the good (not to mention the interesting), you do not have to look at this thread.
 

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As someone who spent a few years swanning round the world in traditional "tramp" cargo ships in the 1970s I can certainly say there was definitely an up side to the old ways. Hard work, dirty and sometimes dangerous but also a huge opportunity for a young man to visit every continent bar Antarctica and often spend several days or even weeks in some very interesting places. How does nearly two months in Uruguay and Argentina sound? Add on a visit to the Argentine Grand Prix and Xmas/ New Year somewhere miles up the Parana River and getting paid for it! If that doesnt float your boat :) how about a month round the Aussie coast including a week in Sydney and another in Melbourne, nicely moored in the old city centre docks a few minutes from all the action? Another Xmas in New Orleans moored just next to the riverboat jetty in the French quarter. Visiting the Whitbread Round the World race boats in Auckland and loads more.
Yes, progress overtook all that but its a shame ordinary young people without much money struggle for opportunities like that today.
 
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