In defence of Deckmaster

[byron]

Once again the Forum has gone potty because they don't agree with someone's views. I'm sorry Dudes (and Dudesses) Deckmaster is entitled to his point of view and disagreeing with them doesn't give us the right to slag him off.
Now! thats my point of view and I am as guilty as the worst of youse for Freddrift and nonsensical postings.


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[EME]

In defense of my colleagues

Byron

Interesting observation, howver for my part it isn't WHAT he said, it was the HOW it was done.

Of course views are allowed , howver I would respectfully suggest that the following means MIGHT have been more appropriate to his cause .

1) Not having a go at a newbie (Joanne2)
2) Using less volatile verbage to someone we believe he can not know
3) PM-ing me as perpetrator of the thread and asking/advising/demanding that I delete/desist
4) Posting a general thread to all along the lines of his wishes ( Boatone has done something VERY similar recently on splitting the forum up and his thread ran OK)
5) Having caused offense to some ( albeit unwittingly) , to then apologise. I have , unwittingly, caused offense to several hereabouts and vice versa , but in each case a prompt apology from me appears to have resolved the issue.

Now this is all IMHO. But the attack on hlb and now on Joanne2 , do appear a little heavy..my opinion, nothing more.

Where I do agree wholeheartedly is that the overall trend isn't encouraging. I for one have deleted ALL my personal details over time due to the ferocity of some of these personal attacks



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[longjohnsilver]

Boats. There, that should keep him happy, first time the B word has been used on this fred, and probably on the forum, for ages.

 

[hlb]

Dont think anyone is having a go about his point of few Byron. But running to teacher and sending PM's to Learner, telling him what he can and cant do. Now thats something to have a go at.

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[EME]

Haydn

Didn't actually pm me. point I was trying to make I would have been happier if he had pm'd rather than have-a-go at the innocent.






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[hlb]

Sorry. But thats what it reads like. Maybe we'd better just shut up about it or finnish up the worse.

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[byron]

OK Haydn & Learner, I agree Deckmaster wasn't exactly tactful and I agree that having a pop at a Newbie wasn't going to endear him to everyone. But the plain fact is he felt strongly enough to take such actions. Now! as regards to running to Kim. Well! Kim is the final arbiter in these matters and it is for him to decide the final analysis, after all we are all Boaters and should know that every boat must have a Skipper.
Jeeze! I am rambling now /forums/images/icons/crazy.gif

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[boomer]

Now for my twopennyworth.

Deckmaster has, of course, a perfectly legitimate point of view. And to be fair, he/she wasn't particularly aggressive in putting it. Others also comment from time to time about what they see as the imbalance between boaty content and so-called humour and see the solution in splitting MBC into two.

However, I'm afraid that those in the 'more serious' camp have to accept the forum world as it is rather than as they would like it to be. Byron was (to an extent) right in that in many (but by no means all) forums, the tone and content is dictated by the enthusiastic few. Unfair perhaps, but theres the paradox - without them a forum of this type is unlikely to survive long-term. This provides IPC (and others in this situation) with a problem of cost justification. Are there really hoards of 'serious' boaters eager to make use of MBC but put off by the nonsense there. Would stricter moderation widen participation and feed thro' to the bottom line? Much depends on what the costs of providing the facility are, of course. Some I have looked at are seriously expensive but provide facilities other than just 'chat' whilst others are run virtually out of petty cash. Kim care to comment?
In any event, is stricter moderation or the establishment of separate serious/jokey fora likely to succeed? Probably not!

One other point that needs to be acknowledged about the accused (sorry,regulars) is that they are, primarily, forum enthusiasts, boating is a secondary interest but the one that brings them to this particular site. Participating in such Boards fulfils a need in the individual altho' the motivational factors are many and varied. Lest any should demur, let me assure you this is based on solid and extensive research.

I'm going to lay down now.

 

[sailbadthesinner]

I would only make the point that not all can get on the water that often that each day we have a new problem to pose to the 'panel'
hence i drift over here

if it were restricted to strict boating issues it could freeze quite soon. as it is on all the sites there is repetition. which boat which sail which route?
that is okay as each time there is in fact a new peice of knowledge added.
of course you are right that deckamster has a right to his views i think he was just v. tactless and got people's back up. and the kim bit well not good form imho.

still he got a debate started so maybe he has acheived his aim.

Come on brain.get this over and i can go back to killing you with beer

 

[nicho]

OK, so lets take an average scenario of a Saturday evening in any marina/harbour/busy anchorage. People arrive, people (not all but in my experience, many!) open up the booze cupboard and people invite those nearest round for a glass or two - and what topics tend to be discussed?

-Boats/boating and related matters (of course)
-Marinas (berthing fees/staff/facilities etc)
-Incidents with Raggies/Stinkies (God I hate those labels!)
-Bad experiences
-Good experiences
-Next destinations
-Boating advice, both sought and given and YES, (especially later in the evening):

-Jokes, slaggings off, and light hearted banter!!

Surely this forum is only an extension of a many peoples typical time afloat, so why should it be limited to serious boating matters only?

 

[jimg]

Surely all we need to do is keep the "technical"/serious boating questions threads on a sensible, providing assistance vein ( or just keep quiet ). Jokes, friendly banter can be on it's own thread, I think it is when some-one asks a question and gets a "silly" answer that the trouble starts, ala the Big Mack fiasco.