impossible boat market :-(

ashtead said:
Would you really want a Hymer parked outside your house though so where do you put them when not blocking the country lanes on the IoW which are not designed for such traffic anyway only for tractors?
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Owners pay to store them just like boat owners do in winter.
 
ashtead said:
Would you really want a Hymer parked outside your house though so where do you put them when not blocking the country lanes on the IoW which are not designed for such traffic anyway only for tractors?
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It's probably easier than parking a £60k yacht outside your house?
 
ashtead said:
Would you really want a Hymer parked outside your house though so where do you put them when not blocking the country lanes on the IoW which are not designed for such traffic anyway only for tractors?
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Yes, I do. But I’d never take it to the IOW.

Then again I wouldn’t choose to take my boat there either. Even though they had delicious beer.
 
Hmm. Well for all those posts I am still not finding a sailing yacht post 2000 , able to take to the ground and about 30ft. There do seem to be a few more boats on sale but all are fin keel or old.
 
The last OVNIs of that size were made in the early noughties, the current 370 is a bit big but if you want shoal draft there's not a big choice unless you go multihull.
 
Birdseye said:
Hmm. Well for all those posts I am still not finding a sailing yacht post 2000 , able to take to the ground and about 30ft. There do seem to be a few more boats on sale but all are fin keel or old.
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I think, the Sadler 290 - to very good reviews in the Yachting Press was post 2000. sails well, takes bad / heavy weather in its stride and is fast for its size. It is supposed to be featured in Me and My Boat Yachting Monthly December.
Unfortunately only approximately 50 were built so not easy to find.
 
penfold said:
The last OVNIs of that size were made in the early noughties, the current 370 is a bit big but if you want shoal draft there's not a big choice unless you go multihull.
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Talking to Discovery, over the summer, they said that they’d be ‘starting work,‘ on updating the Stephen Jones designed Southerly 330 (Southerly 32, as was), ‘over the winter.’ If a new build is an option. And time not of the essence….
Be interesting to see what they come up with.
 
Birdseye said:
Hmm. Well for all those posts I am still not finding a sailing yacht post 2000 , able to take to the ground and about 30ft. There do seem to be a few more boats on sale but all are fin keel or old.
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Beneteau 311 QR ?
Feeling 32di ?

or if you’ve got a bigger budget, how about

Dragonfly 920, or Dragonfly 28 ?
 
Birdseye said:
Hmm. Well for all those posts I am still not finding a sailing yacht post 2000 , able to take to the ground and about 30ft. There do seem to be a few more boats on sale but all are fin keel or old.
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That is likely because post 2000, people who wanted such a boat were unwilling or unable to stump up for a new one.
It's like cars, the choice of cars for me is dictated by what people were buying new 5 to 10 years ago.
I saw a Sadler 290 for sale not long ago, it was about 3x the price of a Hunter 27, for a boat 2ft longer and half the age
If you really wanted to go sailing, you would just buy something that's available.
 
Wing Mark said:
Saddest thing is all the 'pandemic pets' no longer wanted.
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Not sad at all. Too many of them around, particularly dogs. Saw one the other day flying about the middle of the road. Nearly caused a few accidents with screeching brakes. Stupid owner had no control of it. It was lucky to live.
 
dgadee said:
Not sad at all. Too many of them around, particularly dogs. Saw one the other day flying about the middle of the road. Nearly caused a few accidents with screeching brakes. Stupid owner had no control of it. It was lucky to live.
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The pandemic may have increased the numbers, but those ill-trained owners are nothing new.

Wing Mark said:
one in ten people expressing remorse for junk they bought last year
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Is that all? I'd have thought it was at least 1 in 10 in a normal year
 
Wing Mark said:
That is likely because post 2000, people who wanted such a boat were unwilling or unable to stump up for a new one.
It's like cars, the choice of cars for me is dictated by what people were buying new 5 to 10 years ago.
I saw a Sadler 290 for sale not long ago, it was about 3x the price of a Hunter 27, for a boat 2ft longer and half the age
If you really wanted to go sailing, you would just buy something that's available.
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Not necessarily, it depends on where you want to, where you can sail, what type of sailing you want or can do and perhaps even where you can moor your boat, not everyone wants to travel 200 miles to their boat.
 
dgadee said:
Newness is not the issue. It's the number of dogs about. More dogs, more attacks, more fouling, etc. etc
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Number of dogs about…..people’s greed in cashing in…..more pups produced more money for greedy people
More attacks…..idiotic people not socialising dogs or training them.
More fouling……moronic people who don’t think of others.

You should be critical of people……what part of your post is the fault of the dog?
 
Flynnbarr said:
Number of dogs about…..people’s greed in cashing in…..more pups produced more money for greedy people
More attacks…..idiotic people not socialising dogs or training them.
More fouling……moronic people who don’t think of others.

You should be critical of people……what part of your post is the fault of the dog?
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The dogs have the same 'upbringing' and genetic problems as the chavs that own them.
The way a lot of these dogs were farmed, it's no surprise they have problems in a domestic setting with less than ideal owners.
Nature/Nurture and all that.
 
Stemar said:
The pandemic may have increased the numbers, but those ill-trained owners are nothing new.


Is that all? I'd have thought it was at least 1 in 10 in a normal year
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Yes, but more junk was bought last year by bored people unable to fly abroad with larger than typical levels of disposable income.
 
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